MBB Game 11 @Norfolk State Dec. 9 (Mon) 7 PM

[Jojogunne]

We go back on the road Monday to take on a tough Norfolk State team.

The Spartans are 6-3 and landed the final spot in CollegeInsider.com's Mid-Major Top 25 Rankings this week.

Here's a season preview:

https://nsuspartans.com/news/2024/11/2/ ... paign.aspx

Looks like there's no video feed, just WRHU.

[Wags]

How Hofstra performs in this one may be a decent test to gauge how they'll perform against some of the CAA this year given that Norfolk State has already played three other CAA teams this season:

11/12: Lost at W&M, 84-73
11/16: Won at Hampton, 67-58
12/1: Won at Stony Brook, 77-66

The Spartans also travel to #15 Baylor two days after this game against Hofstra.

[Cards]

Any streaming or TV/cable coverage?

[The Shadow]

According to KenPom: NSU #146 HU #163 According to ESPN chance of winning: NSU 65.2% HU 34.8%

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Any streaming or TV/cable coverage?

Doesn’t seem to be, sadly.

There was a part of me that considered driving to Virginia for this but ultimately decided against it

[Jojogunne]

Preview says no video or audio.

https://gohofstra.com/news/2024/12/7/me ... onday.aspx

[dutchPride86]

Preview says no video or audio.

https://gohofstra.com/news/2024/12/7/me ... onday.aspx

For today's day and age, that's just straight up unacceptable for a D1 basketball game. And Hofstra needs to be more deliberate and intentional with the TV rights for the games they schedule in non conference if they truly want to grow the program beyond hoping 3rd graders remember the "School Day" game when they grow up.

I know cable is on a massive decline, but still, when you play a power conf team like Seton Hall get the game on a national channel (like Monmouth and Fordham both had with either FS1 or FS2) instead of being buried on MSG streaming against a knicks game (Even the FSU game... wake forest had a nationally televised game against a no name school on ACC Network at same time while we were only on ESPN+). When you play in a tourney, don't agree to one that only streams on junk like Flo and not at least ESPN+.

It's already nearly impossible for any casual fan to ever watch a Hofstra game with the CAAs awful FloCollege deal that we've all killed ad nauseam, stuff like this makes it even worse.

(And btw, credit to Hofstra for at least improving their own broadcasts with a better scorebug, professional pxp, and the new professional control room. Just a shame no one can see it on Flo)

[HUSID74]

Agree dutchPride. Thee is no excuse for not having any tv outlet coverage of a D 1 college game....disappointing and shameful.

[EvanJ]

Unfortunately, the people involved to not think of games as being Division I. They think of games as being whatever conference the home team is in. The top conferences want to be on TV so much, which means the other conferences are on TV less. The NCAA does not get involved to help the lesser conferences. I looked at the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (MEAC) schedule for a few days, and games at Coppin State are on ESPN Plus, with no TV or streaming for other games (maybe they are occasionally on TV). The MEAC has doubleheaders of Men's Basketball and Women's Basketball to save money. If you want to read a long article about what it is like to be a school like Norfolk State, there is https://www.espn.com/mens-college-baske ... id=3221302 which is from February 14, 2008, and the gap between rich and poor is even bigger now than it was then. I feel sorry for the HBCU players. They have long trips, cheap travel, and have games where the fans celebrate to HBCU being blown out. Norfolk State is great by HBCU standards, and lost 70-63 at Stanford. The MEAC and Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC) are HBCUs, and they play almost all of their nonconference games away because they need to be paid by rich schools and other mid-majors. Some teams do not play any conference games at home, or have their only nonconference home games be non-Division I. This is unique because it is rare for a team not in the MEAC or SWAC to go as far to a MEAC or SWAC team as we are doing, and once we went to Jackson State. Norfolk State's 16 nonconference games are 10 away, 2 against SWAC teams in the Chris Paul HBCU Challenge in Connecticut, 2 hosting us and James Madison, and their first 2, which were hosting non-Division I teams. They played more nonconference games on the west coast than how many nonconference Division I home games they have.

https://nsuspartans.com/sidearmstats/mbball/summary will have statistics. Unfortunately, Norfolk State uses Sidearm Stats, which is not as good as StatBroadcast that all CAA teams use. With StatBroadcast, each game gets a page that remains available forever. With Sidearm, it has statistics from Norfolk State's most recent home game, and when it moves on to our game, the statistics of the previous game will no longer be available in the way they are now.

[HUSID74]

CBS sports lists the game stream as available on FUBO TV for a fee of course...I will check it out. Looks like we're 3.5 point underdogs on this one with a 34.3% chance of winning.

[triplec2195]

Thanks for the info. ESPN is showing 3.5 as well.

[Wags]

Some more on what Norfolk State did against its three prior CAA opponents this season:

In an 83-74 loss at William & Mary on Nov. 12:
NSU Shot 1/14 from 3, W&M shot 16/46 from 3; Brian Moore Jr., a 6-2 Sr. guard from Harlem, scored 31 and 6-8 F Jalen Myers scored 17 off the bench; W&M led 47-32 at halftime.

In a 67-58 win at Hampton on Nov. 16:
Moore scored 20, 6-2 Sr. G Christian Ings had 16, Myers started and scored 12 pts; Spartans led 34-20 at halftime.

In a 77-66 win at Stony Brook on Dec. 1:
Four starters were in double figures, including Moore (18), Myers (15), and Ings (11); Spartans led 34-27 at halftime; Stony Brook went 9/33 from 3 out of 56 total shots.

[EvanJ]

http://defiantlydutch.blogspot.com/2024 ... state.html is Jerry Beach's "I'll Be Quirky: Norfolk State." The 114-48 win over St. Joseph's was our largest margin of victory ever, and when I checked other team records, I did not think of checking for our margin of victory record. Our Record Books do not have that record, so I wonder if Jerry looked at the score of every game to find out. Our previous record for margin of victory did not requires as many points, as we beat United States Merchant Marine Academy (Jerry wrote "USMMA" and I wonder what percent of readers knew what that stands for) 75-10 in 1955-1956. We have eleven wins by at least 51 points, and none are against Division I teams. It was obviously a unicorn score, meaning the first time we won by that score. I wonder what the most common scores for all teams combined that we never won by are. Graham's basket against Arkansas State (who won at Memphis to knock Memphis out of the polls) and Aranguren's basket against St. Joseph's made us have consecutive baskets that were game-winning, which is only possible by having a last basket be game-winning and leading the next game after every basket. We had two games with five double-digit scorers that had no players in common, and I wonder when the last time any team did that in one season was. It was the first time since a 69-54 loss at Delaware on January 9, 2013 that we did not have a starter score double-digits, and that team had a horrible offense. Daquan Brown led us with 13 points off the bench in that game, which was 383 games ago. Robinson shot threes 8-9 which is our best player percentage shooting threes in a game with at least 9 attempts. Miguel Mantilla Pacchiano became our second player from 2004-2005 to now to have exactly 1 point, exactly 1 assist, exactly 1 steal, and exactly 1 block. Our previous player to do that was Cornelius Vines in 67-63 win at Florida Atlantic on December 29, 2009. Pacchiano and Jayden Henriquez made it the first time that we had two walk-ons score since Matt Grogan scored 7 and Adam Savion scored 2 in a 79-50 loss hosting George Mason on February 20, 2013. I already said that that team had a horrible offense, and four walk-ons had to play because four thieves were kicked off the team.

Jerry wrote that Norfolk State was picked second in the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (MEAC) and had two players on the preseason second team and two players on the preseason third team. Even in a conference with only eight teams, it is hard to have four players honored. Brian Moore is tied for 15th in Division I with 21.1 points. Monmouth's Abdi Bashir Jr. leads the CAA with 20.6 (albeit he is not on CAA all-kenpom.com), and Davis leads us with only 14.9. According to KenPom, us (321st) and Norfolk State (296th) both play slow tempos. There are 364 teams.

ESPN shows the line opened at 2.5 and moved to 4.5. KenPom expects Norfolk State to win 68-63 which would cover. KenPom shows each team's next opponent, and of the eleven CAA teams whose next game is against a Division I team, Richmond at W&M is the only time a CAA team is home.

This is our second-to-last game that will have Sidearm Stats instead of StatBroadcast. I checked our last nonconference away game, and Quinnipiac also uses Sidearm Stats. If you go to https://nsuspartans.com/sidearmstats/mbball/summary before it moves on to today's game, you can see Norfolk State's game hosting James Madison. Norfolk State trailed 33-32 at halftime and had a great second half to win 83-69. The good thing about Norfolk State using Sidearm Stats is that otherwise I would not have check Norfolk State's previous home game (which was November 9), which had an amazing statistic. James Madison had more offensive rebounds 19 to 0. It might have been the first time from 2010-2011 that a team won by at least 14 points while not having an offensive rebound and allowing at least 19 offensive rebounds, but the Stathead Play Index does not answer that because it excludes team rebounds. James Madison had 16 offensive rebounds that were not team rebounds, which tied Merrimack on February 12, 2022 for the most offensive rebounds by a team that lost by at least 14 points and did not allow an offensive rebound. In order to find team rebounds, I would have to take the play index results and go to school websites for box scores including team rebounds, which I did not do. James Madison had more second chance points 18 to 0, but the Stathead Play Index does not help with that either because it does not have options of special types of points.

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If anyone comes across any kind of video feed, please do share

[EvanJ]

Six minutes before 7:00 P.M., the statistics were still on Norfolk State's game against James Madison, but now they switched to today. For the first time this season, we changed a starter. Plotnikov is starting, and Gadsden is not. The statistics have first initials without first names, and do not show all of long last names. The game started with Aranguren missing two shots, and Norfolk State missing one.

[bean-pie]

How TF is there no stream. Stupid stupid stupid. Don’t even get me started on Flo as well.


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[bean-pie]

Annnd not even a radio stream.


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Following along on the ESPN app might be better than sidearm

[bean-pie]

Following along on the ESPN app might be better than sidearm

Checking there now. Thanks.


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Under 12 timeout, were down 14-12

4/12 shooting so far… Aranguren with 7

Both teams have 2 fouls apiece