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John Rooney

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:49 pm
by ProudofPride
In addition to being the newly crowned CAA Pitcher of the Year (Hofstra's first ever, and the first time in conference history that the same school has had the pitcher of the year for both baseball and softball), John Rooney was recently named a finalist for the Golden Spikes Award. This is for the top amateur player in the country, and there are 25 semifinalists right now. He is a legit contender to be a 3rd or 4th round draft pick, and currently leads the nation in ERA (1.01).

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https://www.usabaseball.com/golden-spik ... inees/2018

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:12 pm
by dutchalum01
Just voted. How sick is that uniform.

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:47 pm
by Flying Dutchmen
A great achievement in a tough baseball league!! Just listened to a few interviews with Rooney this year, he's an awesome representative for Hofstra Baseball, he deserves the accolades!

Excited to follow his career to professional baseball, should be a top 5 round draft pick, maybe higher...hopefully one of the locals picks him up!

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:28 am
by stuball888
Voted yesterday. Now I can’t get to voting area

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 10:56 am
by Jojogunne
MLB potential?

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:19 am
by stuball888
Lowest ERA in the NCAAs definitely MLB material.

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 4:16 pm
by stuball888
Got my 50 votes in today. Vote early and often. Vote vote vote

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 5:40 pm
by HUclassof19
when is the draft? do we have any idea when he will go?

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 10:23 am
by EvanJ
The draft is Monday through Wednesday.

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:01 am
by Cards
here is the skinny on Rooney: (note that scouting grades are out of 80, so guys that consistently have fastballs at 98+ typically gets a scouting grade around 70 in fastball category)

Scouting grades: Fastball: 50 | Slider: 55 | Changeup: 50 | Control: 55 | Overall: 45
Heading into this year, Hofstra had had just one player get drafted before the 10th round, Bryan Verbitsky, a 2013 third-round pick. The school had also had just one player, Daniel Poma in 2012, be named a Golden Spikes Award semifinalist. Rooney joined Poma in the latter category this spring and the left-hander almost certainly will join Verbitsky in the former in June.
The 6-foot-5 left-hander has really come into his own as Hofstra's Friday night starter this spring, using a three-pitch mix to carve up opponents in the Colonial Athletic Association. He'll throw his fastball in the 87-93 mph range, using his size well to create good downhill plane. His slider flashes plus with good bite, a pitch that has improved over time, even from his stint in the Cape Cod League last summer until now. He'll effectively mix in an average changeup with some fade as well, and he's thrown all three pitches for strikes.
With a somewhat limited ceiling, Rooney may not go quite as high as Verbitsky, who was the 86th overall selection, but he may not be far behind. After the dominant junior season he's had, he should easily beat Poma, who was a 10th-round pick back in 2012.


I think he will need to add several MPH to his fastball to do well moving through the minors. he will need to be consistently in the 91-94 range. And that assumes he has other "plus" pitches to compliment a very average (at best) fastball. I think he is 21 years old, so given his age and the additional coaching he will get, he should add mph over the next year or so. He will be interesting to follow.


Just for comparison sake (and an update) - Brian V was a 3rd round pick and received a $400,000 signing bonus. He played in rookie ball and "A" for 2-3 years. He also dealt with some injuries. I don't know if he is even still playing in the minors. Just shows how tough it is to make to the MLB level. Too many people think anyone who is as high as a 3rd round pick (recall that there are roughly 40 rounds in the MLB draft) is on a sure fast track to the MLB. Its not that easy! He played in the Padres organization, but I don't think he made it to even the AA level. Does anyone else have a recent update??

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:42 am
by HUSID74
So we know for a fact that he will not play at Hofstra for his senior year?

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 11:57 am
by Cards
One of the best chances for a decent signing bonus is going pro after your junior season. Once you've got a degree or finished your eligibility, you've lost your leverage. Unless you've really improved between your junior and senior season, better to make the jump earlier. Remember that baseball signings are all about potential and predicting upside based on current age, talent, and ability. At 21 years old, most scouts would have already reached thier assessments on his upside - and staying another year would not likely change that. In addition, it would be almost impossible to beat this year's stats/numbers.


If a college kid gets drafted after his junior year and he is a 30+ round pick, then he is probably better off staying and finishing school - because his amount of his signing bonus will be a non factor! Thats not the case with Rooney.

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Wed May 30, 2018 12:22 pm
by HUSID74
Cards wrote:One of the best chances for a decent signing bonus is going pro after your junior season. Once you've got a degree or finished your eligibility, you've lost your leverage. Unless you've really improved between your junior and senior season, better to make the jump earlier. Remember that baseball signings are all about potential and predicting upside based on current age, talent, and ability. At 21 years old, most scouts would have already reached thier assessments on his upside - and staying another year would not likely change that. In addition, it would be almost impossible to beat this year's stats/numbers.


If a college kid gets drafted after his junior year and he is a 30+ round pick, then he is probably better off staying and finishing school - because his amount of his signing bonus will be a non factor! Thats not the case with Rooney.
Thanks Cards...will be great to follow him as he hopefully, advances through the ranks!

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:16 am
by HofstraHockey
Cards wrote: Heading into this year, Hofstra had had just one player get drafted before the 10th round, Bryan Verbitsky, a 2013 third-round pick.
I know it's practically unrelated, but Ken Singleton was the third overall pick in the '67 draft.

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:23 am
by stuball888
HH how many years did Ken Singleton play for Hofstra

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:30 am
by HofstraHockey
How many years did he play what for Hofstra?? ;-)

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:31 am
by stuball888
I thought he played baseball for us for a year

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:34 am
by stuball888
According to Wikipedia he was drafted third overall out of Hofstra university

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 10:36 am
by HofstraHockey
I thought this was one of your trick questions! He was a scholarship basketball player at Hofstra. Left after his freshman year though after he was drafted by the Mets.

Re: John Rooney

Posted: Thu May 31, 2018 1:16 pm
by ProudofPride
Rooney was named All-American, and ECAC pitcher of the year http://gohofstra.com/news/2018/5/30/bas ... -year.aspx