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Captain wrote:Ok Hal Hughes is transferring out. Good luck young man and hope you find the right situation.
This opens a scholly so let the speculation begin!

I had predicted this and I wasn't alone I also said a lot of what will happen next has already been laid out just like Miranda leaving and Elmo coming in almost simultaneously. One out the front door as the other comes in thru the back door. So who is about to come into the fold here I'm hoping like most of us a post player who will be with us more then one year. The heir apparent to Kante's position in two years. Even if we get a transfer who has to sit out a year I think we will be fine with that. Also does anyone think we will have one more transfer??

Good luck to Hal Hughes. Hope he finds a place where he can play.

Now next question...What kind of player fills his spot? I'd like to see us get an experienced big to bolster our frontcourt and give us some more experience...a grad transfer.

It does seem that most HS players are signing by now and it probably will end up being a grad transfer. Would love to have another player to compliment Kante but I wonder if a Grad transfer would want to come in and compete with Kante. Maybe it will end up being a player at the 4 to give some experience in case Green and Carmer aren't ready.

HofstraMathew wrote:It does seem that most HS players are signing by now and it probably will end up being a grad transfer. Would love to have another player to compliment Kante but I wonder if a Grad transfer would want to come in and compete with Kante. Maybe it will end up being a player at the 4 to give some experience in case Green and Carmer aren't ready.

There are over 40 transfer centers on the transfer portal and some who aren't grad transfers. I would rather let a kid sit and come in and be eligible next year when Kante is a senior. IDK if anyone knows anything about a 6'11 freshman transfer from of all places Niagara Noah Waterman. He's from upstate NY and probably a work project who had over the top stats in HS probably playing against mediocre competition. He averaged 7 points a game playing 22 minutes as a freshman. He only played 7 games starting 5? Did he get hurt or just decide to transfer?? He also shot 43% from beyond the arc 6/14. A possible pickup from a school Joe is very familiar with.

There's an article on line about this kid and it says he was only 6'2 as a sophomore he sprouted big time. He's described as a 6'10 inch and growing guard who can put the ball on the floor and shoot the three who wasn't heavily recruited because he's prone to injuries. Maybe why he only played in 7 games for Niagara which probably means he can get a medical hardship and be eligible immediately. A lot of conjecture but maybe someone we should look at.

triplec2195 wrote:

Captain wrote:Ok Hal Hughes is transferring out. Good luck young man and hope you find the right situation.
This opens a scholly so let the speculation begin!

I had predicted this and I wasn't alone I also said a lot of what will happen next has already been laid out just like Miranda leaving and Elmo coming in almost simultaneously. One out the front door as the other comes in thru the back door. So who is about to come into the fold here I'm hoping like most of us a post player who will be with us more then one year. The heir apparent to Kante's position in two years. Even if we get a transfer who has to sit out a year I think we will be fine with that. Also does anyone think we will have one more transfer??

Good Luck HH.
I would watch him during warm-ups - the kid has a beautiful stroke. Unfortunately, that was only one part of his game - Id image he goes down a division to play.
Again, good luck kid.

I hope we don't get anyone else transferring out - my guess we wont. Going into next season with Kante (2 years left), Truehart (last year of eligibility) and Schutte (2 years left) in our front court would be fine with me - so Id take another Kante type who eats a scholarship and has to sit because of transfer rules.

Agreed with above... I think we have our squad for next season and would hope we use the last scholarship on a high-impact transfer who needs to sit a year. I'd love another P5 center who can come in with 3 years of eligibility and learn from Kante/Schutte.

I think we're all underestimating Schutte this year too-- the guy's development curve has been impressive. He should be one of the better back-up centers in the CAA this year.

Schutte has played well in a back up roll and brings enthusiasm and high energy but what worries me is if he has to play more then 8 minutes in a game. If Kante gets hurt what would we do? Would he share minutes in the post with Trueheart? We really might need to have someone who could play minutes there if we run into an untoward situation there other then foul trouble. Schutte needs to work on his offensive game he’s already playing decent D.

Possible addition:

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status ... 38050?s=20

https://pennathletics.com/sports/mens-b ... tley/15831

https://www.thedp.com/article/2019/11/p ... r-transfer

I'll just say this we probably need a post player more then we need another guard. I'm re posting this since I used stats for the kid Goodman not Ryan Betley. Betley's numbers are far better in terms of percentages then what I originally posted -my bad! Betley shoots 36% from three and is a 78% FT shooter who had 5.8 rebounds a game playing 30.5 minutes. He scored 11.6. It's pretty clear he could help us so which is it another guard or a post player??

Really high quality player if he's healthy. Shot the three really well before his injury in his Junior year. That list of schools he's considering should say it all.

BUT, do we need more guards for this year? He's a one and done...

Schutte has served his purpose well, better than expected as noted, but will caution I don't think he's being underestimated... considering he's already surpassed expectations, I wouldn't expect that curve to continue - that would be a meteoric rise, and highly unlikely. He is a useful backup for X number of min per game... which is what he was brought in for.

HH too, but I called that situation literally from the day we learned he was being brought in . Was never right for this level, best of luck to him for sure.

But Schutte isn't bringing any crazy heat - he was often schooled hard against starting bigs in this league, so would not be smart for HU to put unfair expectations on him. He is what he is, and that's ok for now w/Kante.

But fully agree, knowing that, this team needs a big 100% to hopefully sit 1 and be prepped to take over for Kante when he leaves. I'll also take a scenario where this person has 3 to give and plays sporadically this yr to get acclimated.

This Penn guard looks like a quality player, student, and person, right up JM's alley, but A) he's looking for plenty of immediate PT which I don't think HU can give, and B) HU really does not need another guard in any spot unless another is out that we don't know about yet.

Late signing period has begun, get a BIG.

The way I see it is that we have three players who we know are going to start Kante,Ray and Coburn this is etched in stone. The JUCO transfer may start at the point sharing time with Burgess and maybe Masic(value unknown) the only question now remains who plays the 3 replacing Eli. IMO I feel that Silverio will have first dibs to that position depending on how he plays if he can't win that job because he continues to shoot erratically then I believe that Zion will play a substantial amount of minutes there. Cramer and Trueheart come off the bench to replace Coburn and Green may get minutes there as well and at the 3. We have a lot of shooters on this team guard and stretch type guards but only two really center like players. I'll reiterate it makes sense to get another post player who could be our future 5 when Kante graduates.

I would have no problem taking the kid from Penn...would probably start him over Silverio for sure. My preference as I've stated would be for another big who can play 10-20 minutes and give us some more versatility.

HUSID74 wrote:I would have no problem taking the kid from Penn...would probably start him over Silverio for sure. My preference as I've stated would be for another big who can play 10-20 minutes and give us some more versatility.

A big who could spell IK for 10 minutes and then move over to play the 4 for 10 minutes would be heaven. BUT, that is a tough set of skills to find and sign. I'm with you on the hope HUSID, but its a tough get.

triplec2195 wrote:The way I see it is that we have three players who we know are going to start Kante,Ray and Coburn this is etched in stone. The JUCO transfer may start at the point sharing time with Burgess and maybe Masic(value unknown) the only question now remains who plays the 3 replacing Eli. IMO I feel that Silverio will have first dibs to that position depending on how he plays if he can't win that job because he continues to shoot erratically then I believe that Zion will play a substantial amount of minutes there. Cramer and Trueheart come off the bench to replace Coburn and Green may get minutes there as well and at the 3. We have a lot of shooters on this team guard and stretch type guards but only two really center like players. I'll reiterate it makes sense to get another post player who could be our future 5 when Kante graduates.

Coburn has been sort of playing out of position, I would think they start games with him on the wing and with Cramer and Kante as what you would call the traditional "4" and "5". I see Silverio really only playing in the high post defensively in the 2-3 zone. With Elmo at the point and guys like Bethea off the bench they should be a much improved rebounding team.

I see it more like:
Cowart/Burgess/Masic
Ray/Silverio/Bethea/Masic
Coburn/Green/Bethea
Cramer/Trueheart/Coburn/Green
Kante/Schutte

But it depends on how the new guys assert themselves - I see both Green and Bethea being contributors sooner than later. And Masic surely is intriguing and experienced for a freshman. And they still have another open spot.

cactus wrote:

triplec2195 wrote:The way I see it is that we have three players who we know are going to start Kante,Ray and Coburn this is etched in stone. The JUCO transfer may start at the point sharing time with Burgess and maybe Masic(value unknown) the only question now remains who plays the 3 replacing Eli. IMO I feel that Silverio will have first dibs to that position depending on how he plays if he can't win that job because he continues to shoot erratically then I believe that Zion will play a substantial amount of minutes there. Cramer and Trueheart come off the bench to replace Coburn and Green may get minutes there as well and at the 3. We have a lot of shooters on this team guard and stretch type guards but only two really center like players. I'll reiterate it makes sense to get another post player who could be our future 5 when Kante graduates.

Coburn has been sort of playing out of position, I would think they start games with him on the wing and with Cramer and Kante as what you would call the traditional "4" and "5". I see Silverio really only playing in the high post defensively in the 2-3 zone. With Elmo at the point and guys like Bethea off the bench they should be a much improved rebounding team.

I see it more like:
Cowart/Burgess/Masic
Ray/Silverio/Bethea/Masic
Coburn/Green/Bethea
Cramer/Trueheart/Coburn/Green
Kante/Schutte

But it depends on how the new guys assert themselves - I see both Green and Bethea being contributors sooner than later. And Masic surely is intriguing and experienced for a freshman. And they still have another open spot.

Yes good points cactus you could very well be right here although I like the 3 better for someone who can penetrate and driving to the basket is really not Coburn's forte. He's more of a post up three point shooter a high percentage of his shots are three's. I do like Cramer starting at the 4 though. Good perspective cactus.

HU87 wrote:Really high quality player if he's healthy. Shot the three really well before his injury in his Junior year. That list of schools he's considering should say it all.

BUT, do we need more guards for this year? He's a one and done...

Betley seems like a bigger guard, maybe even more of a wing. 6'5 with respectable rebounding numbers, and he hits 38% from 3 on 6 attempts per game...Doesn't have much playmaking, if his assists/turnover ratio is any indicator. Feels like a great fit to me, a guy who can stand in a corner, knock down threes on kickouts from Cowart, and guard his man. He won't be Pemberton but he will space the floor on a team that has lost two of their best shooters.

I think the completion of this roster both for now and the future is a freshman big. (Not to redshirt).We had Hughes last season in a pinch when Kante and Schutte were in foul trouble. If either of the bigs gets hurt, one more big would really help.
I don't know the status of the final 2 roster players; does Trueheart want to graduate and move on? Is Silverio fully committed to the program?
I guess we will find out soon enough.

Captain wrote:I think the completion of this roster both for now and the future is a freshman big. (Not to redshirt).We had Hughes last season in a pinch when Kante and Schutte were in foul trouble. If either of the bigs gets hurt, one more big would really help.
I don't know the status of the final 2 roster players; does Trueheart want to graduate and move on? Is Silverio fully committed to the program?
I guess we will find out soon enough.

I think that Stafford is a part of this team this year although realistically I don't think he will play that many minutes. He knows the system the players and the coaching staff I believe he's not going anywhere. As for Silverio I think he gets a real chance to play minutes this year. Joe has said he's a very good offensive player despite what we have seen and he actually plays decent D and crashes the boards. Now he won't be playing in the shadows of Buie and Eli and feeling that pressure. I believe that this year he starts turning his college career around we'll see.

I think we get a big body before it's over this year and I think the staff is making their chess moves. I mentioned this kid from Niagara Noah Waterman a 6'11 freshman who's on the transfer portal. He's injury prone and maybe we should check him out. He shoots the three ball and can put the ball on the floor. I'm sure Joe and the staff are aware of this kid and maybe we take a look. We took the chance with Taylor who was injury prone maybe this kid we redshirt and give him another year??