Flying Dutchmen Fans

Just remember you are what your record is. If Seth does turn it around then I will be first to eat crow but starting off 1-4 there is little to no room for error.

I mean they could, conceivably, do really well in CAA play and make it to the tournament, but that's because CAA lacrosse right now is terrible. Hofstra should be a program that competes for a national championship on a regular basis, not one that we should be happy that they just make the tournament. While the Marquette schedule isn't anything special, it's not like Hofstra has been playing an amazing OOC either. Better teams, yes, but not great ones week in and week out,

FD, appreciate you as a fellow HU fan and respect your support for them all – don't mean for this to be any battle with you at all… however, this is very very very clear the problem with this program is the staff, end of story.

The reason why the fan support has dwindled has very little to do with the start of the season, and it has everything to do with the fact that this program has become completely stale under the staff – this is all very plain for anyone to see from the casual fan to the expert

It's nice to hope that they will somehow turn it all around and win the CAA, and I do truly hope that they do, unfortunately the statistics have shown that ST lead teams simply choke – both in game and at end of season

If they don't win the conference and get to the NCAA this yr, he must go.

I don't know if anyone braved the rain today, but Hofstra is up 13-3 near the end of the 3rd.

It was 2-2 after the first period then we just turned on the Jets. I think was a 15-4 final. This is the way we should have been playing all season. providence is not a very good team but much better than the Manhattan team we blew out earlier.

HofstraHockey wrote:I agree, but only to a point. Take a look at this http://www.uscho.com/rankings/d-i-mens-poll/

How is it that Michigan Tech and Minnesota State And Quinnipiac are in the top 10 while schools like Michigan State, Ohio State, and UConn are nowhere to be found? These two sports are very similar in their design, where smaller schools have traditionally been more successful than some of the bigger ones, with the exception of some Big 10 schools obviously having long standing traditions in the sport. You can say that they're recruiting in our backyard, but you would think that Minnesota would take every good player before Minnesota State and Duluth had a chance, but clearly it's about a lot more than that.

So what's the difference? It's not locker rooms or location or academics or anything like that, otherwise Minnesota would blow them out of the water. Whatever that difference is, that's what Hofstra needs to do.

You are dead on - I actually live in the Minneapolis area. Schools like Minnesota State Mankato are a far cry from the University of Minnesota with endowments, facilities, budgets, etc...yet, they've been slowly gaining ground and chipping away year after year. Hofstra has had the opportunity, and we haven't capitalized. If Hofstra is going to build for the future, we had better do it now before the landscape becomes overly saturated. I can tell you with certain, in 10 years from now, every community that embraces hockey will have just as strong, if not stronger athletes now playing lacrosse. My 7 year old boy cannot wait to start playing next year... when 5 years ago, it wasn't even an option. Hofstra needs to strongly evaluate the changing landscape and how we're going to not only compete, but even keep up.


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FOUR of the current top 6 schools (North Dakota, Minnesota State, Michigan Tech, and Minnesota-Duluth) are DIVISION II SCHOOLS that only play hockey in DI. Four of the top 20 have a FBS football team.

And it's not like the big schools don't put resources into hockey- it's a source of pride for many of them. Look at BC and Michigan and Michigan State and Ohio State and Wisconsin and Penn State and Notre Dame and what they invest in athletics and in their hockey programs.

I realize that the sports are not complete parallels. But I can't think of two sports that are closer in design, makeup, competition level, number of "big schools" vs. "small schools" and player composition (I think it's fair to say that, in general, lacrosse and hockey players have similar backgrounds) than these two. And while the lacrosse landscape is changing, and bringing a lot of big schools along with it, so is the hockey landscape, when you see Arizona State adding a DI program, and schools like USC, Alabama, and Georgia having their names tossed around as possibilities. http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophe ... 03651.html

And I think it's for the better, honestly. The small school revival in hockey came after the revival of the NHL in 2005. With more players interested in the game, there's a bigger pool to draw from. Maybe with the interest in lacrosse starting to grow in markets outside of NY, there will be more kids that want to come to the NYC area from the midwest or California for a few years. I hope so, because they need a shot in the arm from somewhere.

^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

(But first congrats on a win - of course the team isn't very good, thats why they're on the sched - without teams like that ST's record would be abysmal - but you take any win you can in times like this - would be fantastic to see them capitalize and create some momentum)

To the above, Hit the nail on the head - it's now or never - save this program or watch it fall off the face of the relevant lax earth - this is not some blind hatred toward ST - it's completely justified concern for the state and future of the program, and my humble yet accurate opinion that ST is clearly not the man for the job of re-establishing and carrying a new bright torch

This isn't for the weak or faint of heart - this is going to be an uphill battle now because the program has 100% failed to adjust, and it will be VITAL to have the proper leadership in order to move on and up - no one can say with a straight face after the last 5 yrs that the current group has earned any right to be entrusted with such an important challenge

Sure it's annoying but my use of the word 'SAVE' is on purpose and fitting - program is sinking and needs rescue - a few on here need to really wake up, as does the HU admin - whats happening here is a little like what has happened to the U of Miami football program - a once power national title caliber program is now an afterthought - and trust me they have plenty of 4 and 5 star talent - the issue is leadership

That's the issue most of the time in most scenarios - and HU needs a shift in it BADLY - they need an agent of change, they need to make a JM type move - like yesterday.

I'm going to throw a name out there - How about we take a run at someone like Lelan Rogers at Syracuse. He's an outstanding assistant, and as far as I can tell, Donahue is tapped to replace Desko. We have fantastic facilities and the administration has shown its willingness to open its check book. He's a proven winner has coaching at multiple levels - assistant with Syracuse, head coach at Cortland for 5 years where he compiled a great record while almost advancing to the national championship. Prior to Cortland, he successfully coached at Ohio Weslyan where he was named coach of the year 4 times. He's even gaines professional experience coaching Chicago in the MLL. What are your thoughts - and anyone have other names to throw in the hat??


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How about former Duke coach and current Bryant coach Mike Pressler.

I'd be all over Pressler - anyone in this administration have any kind of ties, etc?


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Another would to be to reach down to divII for Gordon Purdie of Adelphi. heard only good things about him.

Can we wait until there's a coaching vacancy to discuss potential successors?

Agree Jojo but just speculation. Answering questions about who might succeed Seth.

I have zero issue discussing potential replacements for ST. I'll give him a fair shake, and if he can do something with this years team, all the better. However, this to me is a make or break season for the staff, and the discussion of potential replacements is far from out of line, especially considering the fact that we have zero influence over the decision, whatever that may be.


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Finally a decent win against St. John's. The 4th quarter was probably one of the best quarters they've played all season, and instead of giving up the lead, they added to it, which was nice.

Yes a nice win and strong finish...nice to take care of business locally. The weather for this season has been brutal...almost as bad as the Hofstra video feed...it cut in and out the entire game...anyone else have the same problem...I have Fios

Now time for CAA play...Now they REALLY count!

Team seems to be coming together. Like was said before a strong finish to a game that could have gone the other way. Instead they buckled down defensively and were aggresive on offense. Nice win.

HUSID80 wrote:Yes a nice win and strong finish...nice to take care of business locally. The weather for this season has been brutal...almost as bad as the Hofstra video feed...it cut in and out the entire game...anyone else have the same problem...I have Fios

Yes, my Optimum Internet feed was choppy, too.

The weather last year was terrible too.

They actually got some goaltending in the fourth quarter this game. They needed it, too.