MBB Game 17 - @ William & Mary, 1/7/23, 2 PM EST

[Jojogunne]

Next up: The 6-9 William & Mary Tribe, who just beat Northeastern after losing to Drexel.

https://gohofstra.com/news/2023/1/6/men ... -mary.aspx

https://tribeathletics.com/news/2023/1/ ... rnoon.aspx

The game is on FloHoops.

[EvanJ]

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/ ... game17.pdf is our Game Notes.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-962966.html is a William & Mary topic that says we are favored by 6.

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=429460 will have statistics.

Here is the rest of the CAA tomorrow:

Monmouth at Drexel at 2:00 P.M. http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=425147

UNC Wilmington at North Carolina A&T at 2:00 P.M. http://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=436469

Northeastern at Hampton at 4:00 P.M. http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=425743

Delaware at Charleston at 5:00 P.M. on CBS Sports Network http://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=424657

Towson at Stony Brook at 6:31 P.M. on SNY http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=428319

[HUSID80]

ESPN has us as 6 point favs and gives us a 71.3 percent chance of winning,

[Jojogunne]

I wonder why Towson (and other CAA teams) don't play SBU and us on the same trip.

[The Shadow]

This year's men's basketball schedule does not make any sense to me either. Remember, next year there will be 14 teams. The schedule will have to become different. I posted a good question on the arrangement of the schedule for the CAA in 2023-24 last evening. What do you think may happen?

[EvanJ]

I wonder why Towson (and other CAA teams) don't play SBU and us on the same trip.

North Carolina A&T went to Northeastern before us. In February they go to Stony Brook followed by Monmouth.

Charleston is favored by 13, which is the biggest favorite among today's 17 games with ranked teams, but not the biggest favorite in the CAA because Drexel is favored by 14.5 hosting Monmouth, who is 1-14. Four of the six games have a line of 6, with us favored by 6, UNCW favored by at North Carolina A&T, Northeastern favored by 6 at Hampton, and Towson favored by 6 at Stony Brook.

http://defiantlydutch.blogspot.com/2023 ... -mary.html is Jerry Beach's "I'll Be Quirky: William & Mary." Our 67-51 win at Hampton was our first 67-51 win since we hosted Buffalo on January 27, 1992. He wrote about trailing for 63 seconds in the last four games that "if my research is correct, this is the longest stretch the Dutchmen have gone without trailing by more than one possession since at least the start of the 2005-06 season, which is as far back as the play-by-play logs go at the Hofstra athletics site." Hampton shot .276, which was the lowest by a Division I team against us since Delaware shot .262 on February 28, 2018 when we won 91-46. Hofstra won their last 19 road or neutral games on Thursdays. There only remaining game like that is on January 26, which is my birthday, and it would be disappointing if we don't win at Elon. Boachie-Yiadom's 5 assists were the most by a Hofstra center from 1994-1995 to now, which is as far back as it is possible to find out. Carlos became our first player to go scoreless with at least 7 rebounds since Rokas Gustys had 10 rebounds on December 9, 2017, and our first player who was not a center to do that since Shemiye McLendon had 10 rebounds on January 12, 2011. In free throw percentage from 2018-2019 to now, we lost the NCAA lead, which is now held by Villanova.

Anders Nelson leads William & Mary with 11.1 points, and I wonder where that ranks among the lowest averages for a team leader. Four of their top five scorers are transfers in their first season for them, and in recent seasons they have had many players transfer in and out. Nelson is a point guard who averages 4.9 assists, and Noah Collier leads them with 8.5 rebounds. They average 68.8 points, and shoot field goals .434, threes .364, and free throws .674.

KenPom predicts us to win 73-67, which would be a push against the spread. That would be 140 points, and the over/under is 139.5.

We are 26-15 (.634) against William & Mary. 12 of the last 21 games were decided by 6 or fewer points or in overtime.

https://www.flohoops.com/live/48137 has video.

[triplec2195]

We had a 9 point lead which has now been whittled away but we have come back to take the lead. 29-28 6:37 left in the half.

[triplec2195]

37-31 us at the half after Estrada scores in the paint as the clock runs out.

[triplec2195]

Just looking at the scoring from HU website Estrada 11 points no turnovers Thomas with 10 Dubar and Williams with 6 each. Of note Williams also has three blocks only playing 7 minutes so far. Williams continues to make a case for himself getting more minutes if he can stay out of foul trouble. Carlos 2 on 1-4 without an assist Nelson no points a real shocker 3 rebounds and two turnovers. We got out rebounded 18-15.

[EvanJ]

We went up 9, down 2, up 7, and lead 37-31 at halftime. We shot twos 13-15 (.867), and I wonder what the highest percentage shooting twos in a half is by any team this season. We shot threes 3-12 (.250), and free throws 2-2, which were by Estrada. W&M shot threes much better than twos. They shot threes 5-11 (.455) and twos 6-20 (.300). They made their first 3 free throws which were from a foul in the act of shooting a three by Estrada. Their next free throw was missed when they made a basket, and the announcer said Estrada should have been called for a foul earlier in the possession, which would have been his second with 12:25 left in the half. W&M missed 2 of their last 3 free throws including the first of a 1-and-1 to shoot them 4-6. W&M had 4 more field goal attempts and 4 more free throw attempts. That was because they had 7 offensive rebounds, and we had none. They had 10 second chance points. We had a whopping 6 blocks to their none. Williams blocked 3, Boachie-Yiadom blocked 2, and Dubar blocked 1. I wonder when the last time any team had a half with at least 6 blocks and no offensive rebounds was.

Estrada scored 11, Thomas scored 10, Williams scored 6, Dubar scored 6, Carlos scored 2, Marshall scored 2, Plotnikov missed his only attempt, and Boachie-Yiadom did not shoot. Estrada had 3 assists and no turnovers. Carlos made his only two, missed all three threes, and had no assists. He tied Thomas and Boachie-Yiadom for the team lead with 3 rebounds. Estrada, Dubar, and Williams had 2 rebounds. Gabe Dorsey made 3 of 4 threes and led W&M with 9 points. Noah Collier had 6 rebounds, and he was the only player on either team with more than 3. Anders Nelson had a horrible half with 3 fouls and 2 turnovers in 8 minutes, and no positive contributions.

Drexel leads Monmouth 35-14 at halftime.

Edit: The lead went down to 2, but we responded with a 14-1 run to go up 55-40 and make W&M call timeout with 13:55 left. We made 8 of 10 field goals in the second half, but we still have no fouls drawn in the half, and no offensive rebounds in the game.

Edit: We lead 59-42 with 11:53 left. We scored 20 in the last 5:30. Estrada has 18, Thomas has 17, Dubar has 10, and Gabe Dorsey leads W&M with 9. We still do not have an offensive rebound.

[Cards]

So we are up by about 20, and JC cannot make a shot. HU is feeding him and having him shoot as if Speedy is trying to let him make a shot to boost his confidence. He finally hit a 3 so now he is 1 for 8 from 3.

AM and GP have barely played. I don't get it!

[EvanJ]

We led by as much as 21 before slowing down. After Carlos's three with 5:18 left, we scored 2. We won 75-62. From 2010-2011 to now, there has never been a game in which the winning team had no offensive rebounds and the losing team had at least 18. I thought that would happen, but Williams got an offesnive rebound with 1:14 and missed by the basket to not score double-digits and to make us win without any second chance points. On a better note, we had 12 blocks, and W&M had none. It was bthe third time this season that a team had at least 12 blocks while their opponent had none, and the first time that happened in a CAA game since W&M had 12 blocks hosting Charleston on February 21, 2019. From 2010-2011 through before today, W&M had three blocks when they had at least 12 blocks and their opponent had none, and no other CAA team did that. I'll type more later.

[HUSID80]

Good road win...We had 12 blocked shots which must be a record.
We shot lights out except from three thanks to Mr. Carlos...most of our points in the paint yet we only took and made 2 free throws...strange
We could have won this by 30 if we kept our foot on the gas and get Carlos shooting practice!

[triplec2195]

Carlos had some good open looks in this game but did manage to score 11 points on 5-15 he did though have 5 boards 3 assists and 3 steals. So what's the answer here have Estrada play the point and bring Marshall in to take some of Carlos' minutes? We get outrebounded 45-32 have 1 O rebound and win by 13. The key was shooting 55% to their 33%. Our rebounding has to improve every game won't finish like this game.

[Cards]

I think that its Triplec. Speedy has JC playing less and less minutes at the point, so why does he need to be in there for 35 minutes if hes not the PG. Let marshall or Plotnikov come in for JCs no PG time. Carlos only had 11 because the team was letting him try and score. As far as rebounds go, HU is crashing the defensive boards the last few games, so all of a sudden JC is getting boards. I think if Marshall played JCs 35 minutes he would have more of an impact on the boards. I think the issue with Marshall is that he needs more playing time to be more comfortable, reduce his turnovers and rookie mistakes......JC does not make as many of those mistakes. Im not saying that JC does not bring some stability to the court, but I don't see the logic of AM only getting 3-5 minutes (especially in an easy win).

[EvanJ]

Good road win...We had 12 blocked shots which must be a record.

Our 12 blocks were our most since an 92-89 overtime win in a BracketBuster hosting Rider on February 20, 2010. That was 407 games ago. That season Greg Washington averaged 2.8, and Halil Kanacevic averaged 2.0.

Thomas played the whole game, and Estrada got 1 minute off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMHbfVk74hA is highlights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSRF8oELVmA is Claxton's press conference.

Drexel won 67-35 hosting Monmouth. UNCW let a 15 point lead get down to 1, but North Carolina A&T did not get a second consecutive Saturday comeback as UNCW won 66-61 to get a team record 13 game winning streak, which is tied with Florida Atlantic for the second longest active winning streak. The longest active winning streak is by UNCW's next opponent, Charleston.

[Pride97]

Hard to argue with a convincing win, but i'm perplexed by. the lack of use of the bench. Its like we are sliding into JAM world again. We have some real depth for a change and would be great to see it. Speedy is good about rotating the centers (though mostly due to foul trouble), but Marshall's lack of play after the beginning of the year is mind boggling. He may be the future of this team so would be great to get him more minutes. Especially given the fact that he is clearly the next man up for Estrada.

JC needs to learn that his game is not from the arc. He has shown he can be a good midrange and to the rim scorer. That is very helpful and i wish he'd stick to improving that part of his game.

However - not to be lost this was a really nice win and needed 2 game road trip.

[stuball888]

Actually we did have three center who had 10 blocks in one game
Springfield Washington and Uter all had 10 blocks in one game

[EvanJ]

https://gohofstra.com/news/2023/1/7/men ... d-win.aspx is titled "Estrada And Thomas Score 20 and Pride Blocks 12 In Road Win."

Towson leads at Stony Brook 30-22 at halftime, and Cameron Holden is not playing for Towson. If Stony Brook loses, we will be tied with Drexel for third. Then if we beat Monmouth (who has 1 win and lost 67-35 at Drexel), we will be tied for second with the loser of Charleston at UNCW and probably Drexel. Delaware was close to Charleston before Charleston pulled away to win 75-64, and Jameer Nelson Jr. did not play for Delaware. He is second to Estrada in CAA scoring.

[Wags]

Hard to argue with a convincing win, but i'm perplexed by. the lack of use of the bench. Its like we are sliding into JAM

JAM, whose team won HU's only conference tourney title in the CAA that way, with virtually no bench at all.

Like Speedy said today, he's aware of it, and would like to work the bench in more, but it's hard to take guys out when they're playing that well. I agree with him.

Do you want to see other guys get minutes or do you want to win? There will be times the bench will be called upon. Today simply wasn't one of those days. Take the comfortable win and move on to the next one. They took care of business on this trip. No need to search for problems when there weren't many today or in the last game.