MBB Game 19 at Northeastern: January 22 at 12:00 P.M.

[stuball888]

Is Northeastern that bad? Or are we a much better team when Cooks is on the floor?

[EvanJ]

The over/under is 141.5 so the best bet on this game with our defense might be to just bet the over and stay away from that spread.

We won 72-50 to be under by 19.5. We shot twos and free throws well, and threes below average. We made 9 of 11 free throws, as we continued to not attempt many, and we probably still have the fewest missed free throws per game of 358 teams.

Cooks led all scorers with 19. He started 5-5 before making 2 of 8 to finish 7-13. He played 25 minutes off the bench, so he didn't play almost the whole game. He had 2 assists, and led all players with 3 steals. Estrada started 0-6 before improving to 6-14, and he shot threes 2-7 by making his last 2. His first free throw was short, and he made 2 of 3. He tied for the most rebounds on either team with 8, and tied for the most assists on either team with 3. Dubar scored 7 in the first 5:32 and didn't score again until a three-point play 29:18 later. He shot 4-6 including threes 1-2, and free throws 1-1, to score 10. Iyiola scored 9 by making 3 twos and 3 free throws without a miss. His 4 rebounds were way below his average, and he split playing time with he and Simmons playing 20 minutes each. We were +4 when Iyiola played, +16 when Simmons played, and +2 in the 21 seconds with both of them on the bench. Simmons scored 6 by shooting 3-4, and missed his only free throw, which was the first of a one-and-one, and his first attempt of the season. He had 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, and our only block. Burgess made 1 of 2 twos and 1 of 2 threes to score 5. Both of his makes and one of his misses were in the last 3:00. We were pnly =3 in his 16 minutes, and he had 1 rebound and no other nonzero statistics. Silverio made a three 2:27 in, but scored 2 the rest of the game to finish with 5. He shot 2-7 including threes 1-5. He tied Estrada for the most rebounds on either team with 8, which was the first time in his career he led us in rebounds. Ray shot 1-5 including threes 0-4 to score 2, and he only attempted 1 shot in the second half. He played 23 minutes and didn't do much else with no rebounds, 1 assist, and 2 steals. Carlos did not shoot in 8 minutes, and tied Estrada, Dubar, and two Northeastern players for the most assists with 3.

Northeastern's only double-digit scorers were Jahmyl Telfort and Chris Doherty. Telfort scored 11, but shot 4-13 and committed 5 turnovers. Doherty shot 5-10 to score 10, and led them with 7 rebounds. Coleman Stucke had 7 points and 7 rebounds. Shaquille Walters shot 2-9 to score 5, and Telfort passed him for the team lead in points per game.

We had 4 more assists, 2 fewer fouls, and 3 fewer turnovers. Our ratio of 15 assists to 11 turnovers was good, but worse than our average. We dominated points off turnovers 20 to 9, and fast break points 11 to 2. We had 1 more rebound. Northeastern had 5 more offensive rebounds, but only 2 more second chance points. Because Cooks didn't start, we had more bench points 27 to 15. Each team had 30 points in the paint. We had more steals 7 to 3. Here are the shooting percentages with us, them:

Field goals: 28/56 = .500, 21/60 = .350
Twos: 21/33 = .636, 15/36 = .417
Threes: 7/23 = .304, 6/24 = .250
Free throws: 9/11 = .818, 2/5 = .400

Estrada kept our lead in points per game with 16.4 that is a slightly lower exact value than before the game. Cooks went up from 16.1 to 16.3. Ray fell from 15.5 to 14.7.

Is Northeastern that bad? Or are we a much better team when Cooks is on the floor?

Their 8 game losing streak is their longest since they lost 9 from December 29, 2010 through January 22, 2011. That year January 22 was a Saturday, and they won a home game on January 24. They host UNCW on January 24, so they have to hope January 24 is the day to end losing streaks.

We led 34-23 at halftime, and each team scored 4 more in the second half than in the first half.

[triplec2195]

Is Northeastern that bad? Or are we a much better team when Cooks is on the floor?

Stu I think you can answer that question yourself but probably a lot of both. They have guys returning from injuries so they were playing out of sync but they don't score a lot and realistically is this a very close game without Cooks on the floor definitely not a blow out. Cooks can be huge.

[triplec2195]

The over/under is 141.5 so the best bet on this game with our defense might be to just bet the over and stay away from that spread.

We won 72-50 to be under by 19.5. We shot twos and free throws well, and threes below average. We made 9 of 11 free throws, as we continued to not attempt many, and we probably still have the fewest missed free throws per game of 358 teams.

Cooks led all scorers with 19. He started 5-5 before making 2 of 8 to finish 7-13. He played 25 minutes off the bench, so he didn't play almost the whole game. He had 2 assists, and led all players with 3 steals. Estrada started 0-6 before improving to 6-14, and he shot threes 2-7 by making his last 2. His first free throw was short, and he made 2 of 3. He tied for the most rebounds on either team with 8, and tied for the most assists on either team with 3. Dubar scored 7 in the first 5:32 and didn't score again until a three-point play 29:18 later. He shot 4-6 including threes 1-2, and free throws 1-1, to score 10. Iyiola scored 9 by making 3 twos and 3 free throws without a miss. His 4 rebounds were way below his average, and he split playing time with he and Simmons playing 20 minutes each. We were +4 when Iyiola played, +16 when Simmons played, and +2 in the 21 seconds with both of them on the bench. Simmons scored 6 by shooting 3-4, and missed his only free throw, which was the first of a one-and-one, and his first attempt of the season. He had 5 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, and our only block. Burgess made 1 of 2 twos and 1 of 2 threes to score 5. Both of his makes and one of his misses were in the last 3:00. We were pnly =3 in his 16 minutes, and he had 1 rebound and no other nonzero statistics. Silverio made a three 2:27 in, but scored 2 the rest of the game to finish with 5. He shot 2-7 including threes 1-5. He tied Estrada for the most rebounds on either team with 8, which was the first time in his career he led us in rebounds. Ray shot 1-5 including threes 0-4 to score 2, and he only attempted 1 shot in the second half. He played 23 minutes and didn't do much else with no rebounds, 1 assist, and 2 steals. Carlos did not shoot in 8 minutes, and tied Estrada, Dubar, and two Northeastern players for the most assists with 3.

Northeastern's only double-digit scorers were Jahmyl Telfort and Chris Doherty. Telfort scored 11, but shot 4-13 and committed 5 turnovers. Doherty shot 5-10 to score 10, and led them with 7 rebounds. Coleman Stucke had 7 points and 7 rebounds. Shaquille Walters shot 2-9 to score 5, and Telfort passed him for the team lead in points per game.

We had 4 more assists, 2 fewer fouls, and 3 fewer turnovers. Our ratio of 15 assists to 11 turnovers was good, but worse than our average. We dominated points off turnovers 20 to 9, and fast break points 11 to 2. We had 1 more rebound. Northeastern had 5 more offensive rebounds, but only 2 more second chance points. Because Cooks didn't start, we had more bench points 27 to 15. Each team had 30 points in the paint. We had more steals 7 to 3. Here are the shooting percentages with us, them:

Field goals: 28/56 = .500, 21/60 = .350
Twos: 21/33 = .636, 15/36 = .417
Threes: 7/23 = .304, 6/24 = .250
Free throws: 9/11 = .818, 2/5 = .400

Estrada kept our lead in points per game with 16.4 that is a slightly lower exact value than before the game. Cooks went up from 16.1 to 16.3. Ray fell from 15.5 to 14.7.

Is Northeastern that bad? Or are we a much better team when Cooks is on the floor?

Their 8 game losing streak is their longest since they lost 9 from December 29, 2010 through January 22, 2011. That year January 22 was a Saturday, and they won a home game on January 24. They host UNCW on January 24, so they have to hope January 24 is the day to end losing streaks.

We led 34-23 at halftime, and each team scored 4 more in the second half than in the first half.

So was just curious is this the least amount of points we have held a D1 opponent to Evan??

[joeg1]

We outscored Northeastern by exactly 11 points each half. That has to be incredibly rare, to outscore an opponent by the same amount of points each half, much less by exactly 11 points! Fascinating! I wonder if we have ever been outscored by the same amount of points each half, whether or not the margin was 11?

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[EvanJ]

So was just curious is this the least amount of points we have held a D1 opponent to Evan??

https://gohofstra.com/news/2022/1/22/me ... -rout.aspx is our recap that answers that. It was our fewest points allowed to a D1 team since we beat Drexel 61-43 in the CAA Quarterfinals on March 8, 2020, and the 2020 Quarterfinals and Semifinals might be the last times I ever go to Hofstra game considering where I am now.

Delaware led by 18 in the second half and by 11 with 2 minutes left before Elon made it close, and Delaware won 80-77.

UNCW trailed by 12 in the second half at Towson, but UNCW remained undefeated in the CAA with an 81-77 win in overtime. In overtime Towson committed a flagrant foul for kicking and a technical foul for calling a timeout they didn't have.

W&M went up 21 with 6:15 left. Host Drexel went down 3 with 1:10 left. W&M won 81-73.

Charleston leads 19-10 at JMU.

[cactus]

It's like an alternate universe watching northeastern be this bad

[triplec2195]

And that’s good considering the epic wins and losses over the years.


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[EvanJ]

The day ended with JMU winning 95-94 hosting Charleston. We won by 22, and other four CAA games were decided by 16 combined.

Highlights from the CAA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FFCQGtaito

Highlights from us that only show good plays for us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJt5XNdWrx0

The standings are:

UNCW 5-0
Delaware 5-2
Towson 5-2
Hofstra 4-2
JMU 3-3
Drexel 3-3
W&M 3-3
Elon 2-5
Charleston 1-4
Northeastern 0-7

The next games are:
Monday: UNCW at Northeastern and Towson at Delaware
Tuesday: W&M at Charleston

All the games on Monday, Tuesday, and Thursday are at 7:00 P.M.

[Wags]

We outscored Northeastern by exactly 11 points each half. That has to be incredibly rare, to outscore an opponent by the same amount of points each half, much less by exactly 11 points! Fascinating! I wonder if we have ever been outscored by the same amount of points each half, whether or not the margin was 11?

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And, of course, 11+11=22, and this game was on the first 22 of '22 (1/22/22). Not sure what any of this means, but you started with the 11 and 11, so... lol

[Wags]

Big sigh of relief that HU came to play today. You never know in a venue that's given you trouble before against a team that should have been playing desperate, seeking its first CAA win of the year. Maybe it's simply not Northeastern's year and maybe being picked second in the CAA was way off target for them. So kudos to Hofstra for ignoring the record, for taking the game seriously and getting an easy W.

Said it earlier in the thread, but now that's it's been accomplished, to start 1-2 with a loss at W&M, and despite NU's struggles this season, to then come away with a three-game sweep and to get to 4-2 against the teams that at least on paper, were picked as the top three in the league is a big deal and a great way to navigate through the first third of the CAA schedule. And it was important to keep only one win in the loss column behind UNCW, Delaware and Towson for now.

Great to see Cooks return with a nice game, showing not much rust at all.

Concerned about yet another no-show game from Ray, his fifth of the season - it will get completely glossed over and forgotten about in a 22-point win, but this was his first no-show in his new role off the bench after excelling in that role for two games. He HAS to be more consistent for this team to do damage this year.

[Wags]

So was just curious is this the least amount of points we have held a D1 opponent to Evan??

This year, yes, by far. But ever? Definitely not. Remember, we had Pecora as the head coach for nine years, with a lot of rock fights over that time.

Just off the top of my head, I remember a Hofstra home game during that era against Manhattan in which I think the Jaspers were held to 44 (the final was something like 52-44) and I think there was another home game against William & Mary that was something like 17-15 at halftime, in which I think W&M might've been held in the 40s. I think there may have been others too.

[Wags]

So was just curious is this the least amount of points we have held a D1 opponent to Evan??

This year, yes, by far. But ever? Definitely not. Remember, we had Pecora as the head coach for nine years, with a lot of rock fights over that time.

Just off the top of my head, I remember a Hofstra home game during that era against Manhattan in which I think the Jaspers were held to 44 (the final was something like 52-44) and I think there was another home game against William & Mary that was something like 17-15 at halftime, in which I think W&M might've been held in the 40s. I think there may have been others too.

So, looking it up real quickly, Pecora's penultimate season as HU's coach, 2008-09, sure enough, HU was down 17-15 at the half and won, 54-44. HU also beat Fordham, 60-40, that year.

The following year, they beat Elon, 70-46; beat Manhattan, 44-39 (I think this is the game I was thinking about and then mixed up that score and then was off by two with the W&M score above); and here's one for you -- they held W&M under 50 and still lost, 48-47; they also beat JMU, 68-48, on the road that year.

Not going to go year by year right now (maybe another time out of curiosity), but you get the idea. Those Pecora years were defense first, and it's a far different game today with the 3s attempted today, so 50 is low today, but not a big deal back then and earlier.

[triplec2195]

Thanks Wags thought it wasn’t but dam it was a low score for sure. Was our D good or their O pathetic? Probably a bit of both.


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[Wags]

The big CAA game tomorrow is #1 UNCW @ #2 Towson.

What do we root for? A first loss for UNCW or a loss for Towson, who already beat us?

UNCW with a big gut-check win to get to 5-0 in CAA play. I asked after they went 4-0 with the 3-pointer to win at JMU if it was time to start taking UNCW seriously or if they'd fall back to Earth. I expected the latter and considered Towson the team to beat in the CAA then. After today, I have no choice but to say that at least for now, UNCW is very surprisingly the team to beat.

UNCW (picked 9th) and in first-place at 5-0, and Northeastern (picked second) at 0-7, are the two most remarkable things of the season thus far.

I also said W&M had already fallen back to Earth after starting 2-0 in the CAA and then losing its next three, but then, the Tribe won at Drexel, 83-75, today.

This league is crazy, but always fun to see all of the inexplicable twists and turns each year.

[EvanJ]

Our previous game where both halves had the same margin was a 73-71 loss hosting Delaware on January 23, 2020. The first half score was 38-37, and the second half score was 35-34. Our previous game where both halves had the same double-digit margin was a 73-45 loss at St. Bonaventure on December 7, 2019. The first half score was 40-26, and the second half score was 33-19. The previous time we won with the same margin in each half was a 90-58 win at Towson on January 2, 2016. Each half was 45-29.

[joeg1]

Our previous game where both halves had the same margin was a 73-71 loss hosting Delaware on January 23, 2020. The first half score was 38-37, and the second half score was 35-34. Our previous game where both halves had the same double-digit margin was a 73-45 loss at St. Bonaventure on December 7, 2019. The first half score was 40-26, and the second half score was 33-19. The previous time we won with the same margin in each half was a 90-58 win at Towson on January 2, 2016. Each half was 45-29.

Fantastic!

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[Wags]

Our previous game where both halves had the same margin was a 73-71 loss hosting Delaware on January 23, 2020. The first half score was 38-37, and the second half score was 35-34. Our previous game where both halves had the same double-digit margin was a 73-45 loss at St. Bonaventure on December 7, 2019. The first half score was 40-26, and the second half score was 33-19. The previous time we won with the same margin in each half was a 90-58 win at Towson on January 2, 2016. Each half was 45-29.

Fantastic!

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I remember that 90-58 game, and while many were rightly talking about the easy win and HU playing so well, I was thinking about the 45-29 in each half because that's probably one of the more unlikely things you'll ever see in a game - not just that each half was the same, but as we know, normally, teams up 16 at the break might win by less than that or pad their lead only a little bit and win by 20 or 22, or so. Rare that it would've been +16 for them each half and on top of that, the exact same score in each half. Imagine the prop bet payout on something like that!

[Jojogunne]

At 6 p.m. ABC channel 7 news showed a couple of plays from the game and mentioned that Hofstra has beaten the three top teams in the CAA preseason poll.

[Wags]

At 6 p.m. ABC channel 7 news showed a couple of plays from the game and mentioned that Hofstra has beaten the three top teams in the CAA preseason poll.

Perfect. That's all people need to know to sell more tix (shhh, don't mention that NU is 0-7 in the CAA). lol