Drexel -Monday 1/17/22 @4

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Re: Drexel -Monday 1/17/22 @4

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HUSID74 wrote:Gutty win for us. Ray and Estrada put this team on their backs in the second half.

Great display of mid range shooting from both when the threes wouldn't drop.
This started right away, by the way. He changed their approach early. They started 0/5, with four of those being missed 3s. After that? Estrada dribbled in a bit and hit a jumper off the left elbow and then he hit a mid-range jumper along the left baseline.

Other guys (like Dubar, Ray, even Silverio) started taking Estrada's lead and shooting 2s themselves after that. That was big because they were 25/43 (58%) from 2 and only 4/16 (25%) from 3 today.

When you consider the 4/16 from 3 and getting outscored by 25 in the paint (38-16) and off turnovers (11-4), especially when they needed a big 35-10 advantage off TOs just to win by five last game, it's a wonder how they were even in this game. Good teams find ways to win games when numbers like that are badly against them.

The late FTs were the difference. Hofstra entered the game as the best FT shooting team in the nation since the start of the 2018-19 season, spanning 109 games (76-33 record). HU went 9/10 at the stripe today.

And when you're talking about beating the preseason pick to win the league and then the defending champs, that's a good holiday weekend, to finally put two Ws together against those two and get off that L,W,L,W pattern they started CAA play with.
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Re: Drexel -Monday 1/17/22 @4

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triplec2195 wrote:What was really frustrating watching this game was the way we let them score on 8-10 footers in and around the paint. I believe that if Cramer was available and in this game he would have had some blocked shots on some of those easy shots they were scoring on. It was just too easy especially Bell who we didn't defend very well.
Bell came in averaging 10.3 ppg. He averaged 4.0 ppg as a freshman last year. He never scored more than 20 before today. Shouldn't have let him get 30 today and so efficiently (13/17 fg, 3/6 from 3), but it worked out in the end.
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Wags wrote:
HUSID74 wrote:Gutty win for us. Ray and Estrada put this team on their backs in the second half.

Great display of mid range shooting from both when the threes wouldn't drop.
This started right away, by the way. He changed their approach early. They started 0/5, with four of those being missed 3s. After that? Estrada dribbled in a bit and hit a jumper off the left elbow and then he hit a mid-range jumper along the left baseline.

Other guys (like Dubar, Ray, even Silverio) started taking Estrada's lead and shooting 2s themselves after that. That was big because they were 25/43 (58%) from 2 and only 4/16 (25%) from 3 today.

When you consider the 4/16 from 3 and getting outscored by 25 in the paint (38-16) and off turnovers (11-4), especially when they needed a big 35-10 advantage off TOs just to win by five last game, it's a wonder how they were even in this game. Good teams find ways to win games when numbers like that are badly against them.

The late FTs were the difference. Hofstra entered the game as the best FT shooting team in the nation since the start of the 2018-19 season, spanning 109 games (76-33 record). HU went 9/10 at the stripe today.

And when you're talking about beating the preseason pick to win the league and then the defending champs, that's a good holiday weekend, to finally put two Ws together against those two and get off that L,W,L,W pattern they started CAA play with.
Well stated Wags.
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Re: Drexel -Monday 1/17/22 @4

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Im a harsh critic, but not impressed with the win. We were big home favorites and barely won. Silverio was 3-10, which is actually one of his better shooting nights.

Estrada is the real deal. What a find from Speedy. Kid can ball.
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Re: Drexel -Monday 1/17/22 @4

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Right now only Estrada and Ray can be counted on day in and day out. The others are hit and miss. Dubar looks to be the third option but has some games where he disappears. We know the Silverio is hit or miss. he is seeing floor time due to his hustle and defense. iyiola could also be in that first group but he is not aggressive enough offensively . The guards have got to get him the ball more to open up the 3 point shooting. From a deep team we go back to a 7 man rotation. need to see more contributions from Burgess, Carlos and now Simmons who is playing his way back into shape.
For heavens sake are we ever going to see Cooks and Krammer back on the floor again.
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Re: Drexel -Monday 1/17/22 @4

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HofstraMathew wrote:
HUSID74 wrote:Gutty win for us. Ray and Estrada put this team on their backs in the second half.

Great display of mid range shooting from both when the threes wouldn't drop.

Questionable call by the refs taking one of our points off the board well after Estrada was credited with a three.

Undefeated at home!??
I had a great view of that shot by Estrada from my seats. It was clearly a 2. Was actually surprised ref called it a three at first.
Agreed. Clearly a 2

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Re: Drexel -Monday 1/17/22 @4

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EvanJ wrote: Estrada had 26 points, 8 assists, and 5 rebounds.
We know by now that he can score. It's the 8 assists (of Hofstra's 11 total) and only one turnover that especially stand out to me. And also the five boards. All of that in addition to the 26 points in a close game like today's shows me he's not merely a scorer but a winning player. He also seems to have that clutch gene - not afraid to take key, late shots from the floor or at the line, and he makes them.
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Wags wrote:
triplec2195 wrote:What was really frustrating watching this game was the way we let them score on 8-10 footers in and around the paint. I believe that if Cramer was available and in this game he would have had some blocked shots on some of those easy shots they were scoring on. It was just too easy especially Bell who we didn't defend very well.
Bell came in averaging 10.3 ppg. He averaged 4.0 ppg as a freshman last year. He never scored more than 20 before today. Shouldn't have let him get 30 today and so efficiently (13/17 fg, 3/6 from 3), but it worked out in the end.
This was a deja-vu from the Towson game when Gibson went off for 26 points but Bell is a better player then Gibson.
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Quote; Wags
The late FTs were the difference. Hofstra entered the game as the best FT shooting team in the nation since the start of the 2018-19 season, spanning 109 games (76-33 record). HU went 9/10 at the stripe today.

Yes the FT's are huge and right now we're ranked 6th in the country in FT%. I was happy to see Dubar hit his FT's sometimes you don't know what u can get from him there.
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That was not our best showing yesterday -

OUR (current) CORE FOUR

Estrada - clearly our best player; scorer with poise - leader in most categories
Ray - still lights it up from 3 - LOVE (always did) him off the bench more then starting - he comes in and we are a better scoring team - the Microwave
Dubar - love his game - think he is a bit of a unsung hero - does a bit of everything
Silverio - he takes a, deserved, beating when he plays bad (turnovers, off night shooting, poor decisions) - last few games he is playing really well and played 160 minutes in the last 4 games - and with a depleted roster he is so needed - shooting well (not from 3's but from the floor and the line) - good decisions (last 4 games 23 assists, 6 steals, 1 foul and 4 turnovers) - credit where credit is do Omar is playing pretty damn good

COME BACK SOON (please)
Cooks
Cramer
please come back soon - our two players with the most energy are badly needed

BIGS
Iyiola
Simmons
both have been picking up fouls at an alarming rate - and we need better play from both of them

CONFUSING
Burgess
Carlos
Bethea
not worth commenting on - not enough minutes

Our strongest part of roster going into the season - could had been - Point Guard - Cooks, Burgess, Carlos - last few games - injuries coaches decision - we are getting so little production from those 3
Our weakest part of our roster going into the season - probably - Our Bigs - Iyiola, Crammer, Simmons - are all available at the same time about 50% of the time
Transfers - hard to believe that there are teams that are getting the bang for their buck aas we are with - Estrada, Dubar and healthy Cooks, Iyiola
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Re: Drexel -Monday 1/17/22 @4

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cactus wrote:Is anyone else getting Evan and Carton on sny?

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Anyone know what happened with SNY situation? It was on guide and supposed to broadcast live but wasn't. While it aired later at 9, messed up of them to not air the game when it was supposed to if we paid for it.
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triplec2195 wrote:Quote; Wags
The late FTs were the difference. Hofstra entered the game as the best FT shooting team in the nation since the start of the 2018-19 season, spanning 109 games (76-33 record). HU went 9/10 at the stripe today.

Yes the FT's are huge and right now we're ranked 6th in the country in FT%.
Instead of winning these past two games, they might very well have lost two heartbreakers at the end if not for the free throws in each of those games.

Imagine coming up just short by a point or two in both of those, being 5-2 at home instead of a perfect 7-0 at home, and more importantly, 1-4 and in 9th-place in the CAA instead of 3-2 and in 3rd-place a game out of first-place.

Would be a world of difference and a vastly different outlook on the entire season right now. This board would look extremely different right now. That's how big those FTs were. Sometimes, there is a really fine line with basic, fundamental things that can greatly change the course of an entire season.

The 9/10 yesterday brought them to exactly 80% on the season from 79.55% coming in.
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Re: Drexel -Monday 1/17/22 @4

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Hofstra wrote: Im a harsh critic, but not impressed with the win. We were big home favorites and barely won. Silverio was 3-10, which is actually one of his better shooting nights.
He shoots .383, and that's with 71 percent of his attempts being threes. Of his 18 games, yesterday ranks 12th in field goal percentage.
triplec2195 wrote: This was a deja-vu from the Towson game when Gibson went off for 26 points but Bell is a better player then Gibson.
Gibson averages 11.9 points, and Bell averages 11.8.

We have the fewest free throws made per game in the CAA because we don't attempt many. Our 46 missed free throws are tied for the fifth fewest of 358 teams, and we've played at least 3 more games than the teams above or tied with us. We have the fewest missed free throws per game of 358 teams.

Players not among our top seven scorers combine to average 2.2 points per team game. I wonder if other teams have fewer points from below their top seven scorers, but there isn't a way to find out other than checking 358 teams one at a time.
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triplec2195 wrote:Quote; Wags
The late FTs were the difference. Hofstra entered the game as the best FT shooting team in the nation since the start of the 2018-19 season, spanning 109 games (76-33 record). HU went 9/10 at the stripe today.

Yes the FT's are huge and right now we're ranked 6th in the country in FT%. I was happy to see Dubar hit his FT's sometimes you don't know what u can get from him there.
FYI, Estrada leads the team with a 96% FT average and Ray is second at 93%. That would be good for second and eighth in the country if they qualified for NCAA rankings:

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-m ... vidual/142

I'll defer to Evan to set the record straight. :)
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Jojogunne wrote:
triplec2195 wrote:Quote; Wags
The late FTs were the difference. Hofstra entered the game as the best FT shooting team in the nation since the start of the 2018-19 season, spanning 109 games (76-33 record). HU went 9/10 at the stripe today.

Yes the FT's are huge and right now we're ranked 6th in the country in FT%. I was happy to see Dubar hit his FT's sometimes you don't know what u can get from him there.
FYI, Estrada leads the team with a 96% FT average and Ray is second at 93%. That would be good for second and eighth in the country if they qualified for NCAA rankings:

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-m ... vidual/142
Wow, even Buie would be impressed by that.
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Very thorough report on the Drexel game. Nice work, Wags!

https://www.nysportsday.com/2022/01/17/ ... end-sweep/
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daHUPride wrote:That was not our best showing yesterday -

OUR (current) CORE FOUR

Estrada - clearly our best player; scorer with poise - leader in most categories
Ray - still lights it up from 3 - LOVE (always did) him off the bench more then starting - he comes in and we are a better scoring team - the Microwave
Dubar - love his game - think he is a bit of a unsung hero - does a bit of everything
Silverio - he takes a, deserved, beating when he plays bad (turnovers, off night shooting, poor decisions) - last few games he is playing really well and played 160 minutes in the last 4 games - and with a depleted roster he is so needed - shooting well (not from 3's but from the floor and the line) - good decisions (last 4 games 23 assists, 6 steals, 1 foul and 4 turnovers) - credit where credit is do Omar is playing pretty damn good

COME BACK SOON (please)
Cooks
Cramer
please come back soon - our two players with the most energy are badly needed

BIGS
Iyiola
Simmons
both have been picking up fouls at an alarming rate - and we need better play from both of them

CONFUSING
Burgess
Carlos
Bethea
not worth commenting on - not enough minutes

Our strongest part of roster going into the season - could had been - Point Guard - Cooks, Burgess, Carlos - last few games - injuries coaches decision - we are getting so little production from those 3
Our weakest part of our roster going into the season - probably - Our Bigs - Iyiola, Crammer, Simmons - are all available at the same time about 50% of the time
Transfers - hard to believe that there are teams that are getting the bang for their buck aas we are with - Estrada, Dubar and healthy Cooks, Iyiola
I think the bigs are doing ok, especially lyola...he has had some huge games for us, i.e. Arkansas and Simmons is going to get better.

Must take issue with you on Burgess. At first he was clearly in Speedy's doghouse but lately out of necessity he has been on the floor and has played very good defense and can be counted on to bring the ball up...definitely is not being asked to score and we don't need him to.

Bethea??? Who is he??? He's like the phantom LOL
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In the Drexel game Simmons looked a lot more comfortable which leads me to believe he's going to be a plus. His scoring off the O rebound in this game was a definite plus. That's a shot that Bey misses some times. He also played tough against their kid Williams who's a big body. I just hope when it comes time to take a foul shot he's a decent FT shooter.
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Jojogunne wrote:Very thorough report on the Drexel game. Nice work, Wags!

https://www.nysportsday.com/2022/01/17/ ... end-sweep/
Thanks for taking the time to check it out, Jojo!
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Wags wrote:
Jojogunne wrote:Very thorough report on the Drexel game. Nice work, Wags!

https://www.nysportsday.com/2022/01/17/ ... end-sweep/
Thanks for taking the time to check it out, Jojo!
Saw it on Facebook. :)
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