MBB Game 18 Hampton, Jan 18 (Thu), 7 PM

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Now to the game we're favored by 18.5 points by most sources so apparently Hampton is a bad team, a really bad team. I don't think we will do anything radical here but we'll see how much playing time German gets.

I hate to bring this up but the last time we had a losing season was in the 2013-2014 year. A year after an embarrassing set of events of some of our players so not looking to have a sub .500 year so let this be the start OF A NEW SEASON. Lets cover the spread and then some!!
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Re: MBB Game 18 Hampton, Jan 18 (Thu), 7 PM

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ESPN now has us as 20.5 point favs, for what that's worth, and gives us a 95 percent chance of winning.
Let's hope for once that proves to be correct.
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Re: MBB Game 18 Hampton, Jan 18 (Thu), 7 PM

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Yes lets play 40 minutes of Hofstra basketball on both ends of the court.
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I wonder when the last time we were favored by that much was, and the last time (if ever) we were favored by that much while below .500 was. KenPom expects us to win 83-64 with a 96 percent chance of winning. Hampton is 347th of 362 in KenPom.

The CAA has seven games at the same time tonight, and the other games are:

Northeastern at NC A&T
Stony Brook at Delaware on NBC Sports Philadelphia and SNY
Towson at Charleston on Lowcountry CW
Campbell at W&M
Monmouth at Drexel on CBS Sports Network
UNCW at Elon
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https://defiantlydutch.blogspot.com/202 ... fstra.html is Jerry Beach's "I'll Be Quirky: Hampton at Hofstra." Dubar is 39th on our career points list with 1,039. He is 6 points behind Percy Johnson, 21 points behind Darius Burton, 30 points behind Derrick Flowers, and 51 points behind Ameen Tanksley. Thomas needs 35 points to get to 1,000 for us.

https://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=484933 will have statistics. Hampton's roster has 16 players, who are 10 guards and 6 forwards. All of their players played in at least 2 games, and other than one scoreless player, all scored at least 7 points. 12 players average over 2 points per team game. Three players played in every game, and ten players played in at least 13 of 17. They average 3.4 more offensive rebounds than us.

https://www.flohoops.com/live/87640 will have video.

Edit: We are starting Plotnikov over Washington. Hampton is starting Tedrick Wilcos Jr. (guard, 12.3 points), Tristan Maxwell (guard, 8.9 points), Jordan Nesbitt (guard, 8.7 points), Kyrese Mullen (forward, 14.7 points), and Ja'Von Benson (forward, 6.5 points). Hampton averages 76.1 points, which is more than our 74.9. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/sc ... /2024.html has their statistics, and their problem is allowing 77.4 points. Hampton's statistics do not look like what I would expect from a 4-13 team.
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German is starting! Glad Speedy did something
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dutchPride86 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:01 pm German is starting! Glad Speedy did something
He also actually benched Tyler! And immediately 4-0 spurt from the bench
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dutchPride86 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:20 pm
dutchPride86 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:01 pm German is starting! Glad Speedy did something
He also actually benched Tyler! And immediately 4-0 spurt from the bench
Ahem. See? Should have been all five from the start. Hopefully they don't lose another one possession game because of yet another horrid start.
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So we'll never know...but did the kids quit on Speedy or quit on each other? Cause either way this team is BROKEN
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dutchPride86 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:30 pm So we'll never know...but did the kids quit on Speedy or quit on each other? Cause either way this team is BROKEN
Or very flawed to begin with, in a way that can't be seen through blue & gold glasses.
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Awful major embarrassing themselves!
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Wags wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:34 pm
dutchPride86 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 8:30 pm So we'll never know...but did the kids quit on Speedy or quit on each other? Cause either way this team is BROKEN
Or very flawed to begin with, in a way that can't be seen through blue & gold glasses.
There were always flaws with this roster and offense, but the confidence and effort was there for most of the non-conference. Hampton is a Buffalo level team
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32-18, Hampton.

Hofstra has trailed by at least a dozen in the first half in four of these first five CAA games this year. Not something we would have said with Northeastern, Campbell, and Hampton being three of the opponents.
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The Shadow wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 2:37 am I agree with cactus. You should always respect the game and respect the opponent. This can only cause bad feelings.
Apparently Hampton has no respect for Hofstra because as 20-point underdogs, they are up 15 at the half.
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We scored 59 in the second half to win 86-77. We scored tied for the fewest first half points of fourteen CAA teams, and finished with 4 more than the next highest CAA team. We came back from down at least 15 to lead for the third consecutive game. We were down 18, but one of our opponents had a bigger comeback tonight. We beat South Florida 82-63. Tonight South Florida was at Number 10 Memphis. South Florida led 7-6, then went down 20 at 34-14. South Florida came back to win 74-73. After calling timeout with 6.3 seconds left in a tie game, they had a big man open, and a defender fouled him at the basket. He made 1 free throw, and Memphis missed a three to decide the game.
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Start terriblly, turn it on in the second half. Rinse, repeat. Works against Hampton at home. Will not work against most in the CAA. More than capable of playing well when they want. They just don't want to until the second half. The message continues to be ignored about starting fast.
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Relieved they avoided their most embarrassing loss in a good 10 years, but nothing to celebrate here. The only difference between tonight and the 3 conference losses imo is that Hampton is that much worse than even Campbell/Northeastern.

That being said, and despite the awful start...the German/Washington swap absolutely worked and should be permanent. German's energy was the x-factor to me in the 2nd half and Bryce seemed a lot more comfortable coming off the bench. Also as dumb as my Bryce Washington stat may be, Hofstra does now improve to 9-1 when Bryce scores 7+ points (while they remain winless when he hasn't).

The inability to develop Sunday at all and Tyler's cratering confidence definitely significantly lowers this team's ceiling going forward. The sooner they all come to terms with the fact that Dubar is the team's best player the better
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Tyler was smothered in this game getting double teamed every time he touched the ball beyond the perimeter too bad he couldn't find anyone open not too many good shooters on this team but out of the 0-7 three point misses at least 3 of those were good shots that went in and out. Yeah I actually believe that maybe the Plotnikov for Washington panned out in this game of course they both hit open three's that helps.

Other then the flagrant technical foul and the Dubar foul(all related) I believe we picked up 4 quick points got the ball back and scored again on a Carlos 3 if my memory serves me well. I thought though the bigger turning point in the second half was when Fritz picked up his 4th foul he sat and we went with 5 guards. We played much better without Fritz and clearly much much better without Sunday who looks lost out there. Like has been said a team that just seems to be out of sync and in need of an intervention. How can you score 59 points in the second half and just look totally confused in the first. Mind boggling! They avoided a catastrophic loss in this one!!
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Dubar led all players by far in the three statistics from the Analytics tab that I type here. In all three statistics, he was higher than the next two players on either team combined. In efficiency, he got 37, Jordan Nesbitt led Hampton with 20, and Carlos was second on us with 15. In game score, he got 29.2, Trey Thomas led Hampton with 12.1, and Carlos was second on us with 11.2. In net points, he led us with +16.5, Trey Thomas was second on Hampton with +6.6, and Thomas was second on us with +5.0.

Fritz had 0 rebounds, and Sunday had 1. I wonder when the last team a team had 0 or 1 rebound from forwards was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3cpqWkQA5g has highlights.

Two hours after the game ended, Hofstra did not write a recap.

The attendance was only 1,244.

Towson won 82-78 at Charleston to end Charleston's nine game winning streak. Drexel is 6-0 and the only undefeated team. Jyare Davis had 29 points and 17 rebounds to led Delaware to a 71-68 win hosting Stony Brook. ESPN wrote about something to watch in each conference, and for the CAA it was that Davis is a big man who can shoot free throws, and he shot them 12-12 tonight. Trazarien White had 31 points, 11 rebounds, and 6 assists in UNCW's 82-70 win at Elon. White attempted a whopping 20 free throws, and only made 11. Landon Glasper scored 35, including 24 in the second half, which was almost half of his team's points in NC A&T's 72-65 win hosting Northeastern. Glasper shot free throws 15-15, and the CAA record for free throws made without missing is 16. Drexel's Mate Okros shot free throws 12-12 in a 78-74 win hosting Monmouth, and Monmouth's Xander Rice scored 27. The CAA had three players make at least 12 free throws without missing. Campbell won 77-62 at W&M.
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dutchPride86 wrote: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:25 pmas dumb as my Bryce Washington stat may be, Hofstra does now improve to 9-1 when Bryce scores 7+ points (while they remain winless when he hasn't).
Not dumb at all, actually a good stat and thanks for sharing. It shows that they need help from role players like him.

Reminds of Saquon Barkley this year - Giants were 5-1 when he scored a TD and 1-10 when he didn't or didn't play.
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