Men's Lacrosse 2023

[mikey75]

All true triplec2195, except I think the loss in 2017 was to Drexel and we were up seven goals at the half and then were blown out in the second half. As you mentioned, we've had some bumps up along the way but the program has descended to humiliating losses to Merrimack, LIU, Binghamton, maybe include Marist in there. We stink.

[triplec2195]

All true triplec2195, except I think the loss in 2017 was to Drexel and we were up seven goals at the half and then were blown out in the second half. As you mentioned, we've had some bumps up along the way but the program has descended to humiliating losses to Merrimack, LIU, Binghamton, maybe include Marist in there. We stink.

I feel confident that Tierney can coach he has had successful years here after he took over in 2007. So the bottom line then becomes they can't recruit and this is where it has to change in order to turn it around. I had posted before that out of the top 100 lacrosse players coming out of L.I. we only recruited successfully 1 while S.B. GOT NUMEROUS. So I also see in the pre-season top 20 that S.B. is getting votes and Delaware is 12th. So with our facilities WHY CAN'T WE RECRUIT??

[mikey75]

We have been having this debate for a decade and its gotten us to where we are now. I don't see the point of this any longer. Hofstra's a good school (better than many that are now kicking our arse), with great facilities, in a lacrosse crazy area. So you tell me, but something is very wrong.

[Dutchflid]

We have been having this debate for a decade and its gotten us to where we are now. I don't see the point of this any longer. Hofstra's a good school (better than many that are now kicking our arse), with great facilities, in a lacrosse crazy area. So you tell me, but something is very wrong.

#1) Ugly campus
#2) very expensive
#3) bad surrounding area

Great Players with options want to leave the Island

Good players that do want to stay on the Island have very good options,

LIU is a little easier to get into and cheaper
SBU tuition is about 15% of Hofstra

[mikey75]

This has all been said before and wasn't apparently a problem for Danowski. And, you can say these same things about other lacrosse schools as well. I don't think the campus is ugly. SBU and Binghamton are not exactly Dartmouth. Last time I was at Rutgers it wasn't a rose garden. Sure there are negatives, but there are a lot of positives as well. I might add, if this is as hopeless as you seem to suggest, instead of enduring the humiliation of losing like we have been this past decade, just axe the program. Then HU can rip down Shuart and turn it into a parking lot.

[Dutchflid]

This has all been said before and wasn't apparently a problem for Danowski. And, you can say these same things about other lacrosse schools as well. I don't think the campus is ugly. SBU and Binghamton are not exactly Dartmouth. Last time I was at Rutgers it wasn't a rose garden. Sure there are negatives, but there are a lot of positives as well. I might add, if this is as hopeless as you seem to suggest, instead of enduring the humiliation of losing like we have been this past decade, just axe the program. Then HU can rip down Shuart and turn it into a parking lot.

sorry for the negativity, could be left over disappointment from yesterday. another site has a Hopkins thread that is well over 100 pages with similar post "what happened to a once great program" . Hopkins obviously has a richer history but the faithful do not understand why kids do not want to go to an expensive school in a horrible area that they would not consider attending if not for lacrosse.

[HofstraPride1]

We have been having this debate for a decade and its gotten us to where we are now. I don't see the point of this any longer. Hofstra's a good school (better than many that are now kicking our arse), with great facilities, in a lacrosse crazy area. So you tell me, but something is very wrong.

#1) Ugly campus
#2) very expensive
#3) bad surrounding area

Great Players with options want to leave the Island

Good players that do want to stay on the Island have very good options,

LIU is a little easier to get into and cheaper
SBU tuition is about 15% of Hofstra

Two and three I’ll grant you but number one is beyond ludicrous since Hofstra is a nationally-recognized arboretum. Does this look “ugly” to you? Many schools would dream
to have a campus this scenic!


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[Dutchflid]

HofstraPride1 - You do not have to sell me, I love the school, you have to sell 17 year olds with many options and unless you can figure out a way to helicopter them into the arboretum and avoid the Tpke. and surrounding areas it is a tough sell.

[HofstraPride1]

HofstraPride1 - You do not have to sell me, I love the school, you have to sell 17 year olds with many options and unless you can figure out a way to helicopter them into the arboretum and avoid the Tpke. and surrounding areas it is a tough sell.

Agreed although when it comes to recruiting showcasing the campus beauty and facilities is a big part of the sales push. We are also far from only school in a not so desirable area. On that note, this makes it even more important for hofstra community to fight this terrible casino proposal idea at Nassau Coliseum, which would only cause more problems for general area and make it that much harder
to attract students as many parents would not want their kids going to school so close to one. Here is an online petition against it I urge people on this board to sign https://www.change.org/p/say-no-to-the-casino


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[mikey75]

The casino is an existential menace to Hofstra and I'm not sure Hofstra is up to the fight, especially with the completely turncoat ex-president in Rechler's pocket. Sands/Rechler have already bought off NCC and have no qualms about buying off every Pol they can. Not sure Hofstra, Uniondale, East Meadow and such can fight this off.

[HofstraPride1]

The casino is an existential menace to Hofstra and I'm not sure Hofstra is up to the fight, especially with the completely turncoat ex-president in Rechler's pocket. Sands/Rechler have already bought off NCC and have no qualms about buying off every Pol they can. Not sure Hofstra, Uniondale, East Meadow and such can fight this off.

It will be tough but have to go down swinging and still a lot of steps needed for this to become reality. Also only one other downstate license available with Aqueduct and Yonkers basically assured of getting them and tons of competition from other proposals in Manhattan, especially SL Green/Caesars bid in Times Square and Related Companies/Wynn Resort one in Hudson Yards next to Javitts.


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[mikey75]

Hope you are right, but don't underestimate Sands/Rechler. That sight has been the target of developers for over two decades and not one of the proposals was good for the neighborhood.

[HofstraPride1]

Hope you are right, but don't underestimate Sands/Rechler. That sight has been the target of developers for over two decades and not one of the proposals was good for the neighborhood.

I agree Hofstra is in a very tough fight no doubt, I’m just saying that these other proposals in NYC also have major backing as well, especially the Times Square one with Caesar’s being the biggest casino company in the world and Jay Z’s
Rock Nation also behind it.


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[stuball888]

Guys if the Sands wants another location how about the old Pilgrim psychiatric site in Suffolk county office Sagtigos Parkway

[triplec2195]

Guys if the Sands wants another location how about the old Pilgrim psychiatric site in Suffolk county office Sagtigos Parkway

Right out of a horror movie Stu "Gambling at the PSYCH WARD"!! This should make for big news.

[HUSID80]

We have been having this debate for a decade and its gotten us to where we are now. I don't see the point of this any longer. Hofstra's a good school (better than many that are now kicking our arse), with great facilities, in a lacrosse crazy area. So you tell me, but something is very wrong.

#1) Ugly campus
#2) very expensive
#3) bad surrounding area

Great Players with options want to leave the Island

Good players that do want to stay on the Island have very good options,


LIU is a little easier to get into and cheaper
SBU tuition is about 15% of Hofstra

So recruit elsewhere, this never stopped us before.

No excuses.

[Polito]

BINGO HUSID. One of your best posts of all time. The excuse making is so embarrassing it makes me want to vomit.

Of course ST knows the game. But he has been a bad fit for HU. It's not a mystery. He and his staff aren't getting it done, period.

It's not because HU isn't in Florida weather, or the size of Michigan, or as cheap as a community college, or whatever else. I crack up at this stuff.

I do think it would be really interesting to explore the Johns Hopkins case study though. I am not blind to the fact that the landscape has changed and it's much harder than it was. Welcome to real life. That's the deal for EVERY sport. And EVERY business. The answer isn't you give up and say oh well it can't be done. That mentality is asinine.

Is it easy for HU hoops? Nope. How many times did I hear HU can't have a good OOC, or can't land real talent, or can't win the CAA because of bias etc for a myriad of ridiculous excuses. Guess what? Figure it out. The expectations don't change. This is the game your playing - find your way to make it work.

Watch a stronger leader who is a better fit take over HU Lax and I will put MONEY on that program turning around in under 3 years. It's not the boogeyman holding HU back - it's called leadership. Just knowing the game isn't enough. Being a subject matter expert doesn't make you a CEO. You have to know how to devise and execute an effective plan, optimize your organization, and drive success with urgency.

Does Cole read any of these posts? Does he watch the product on the field? Seems like he's oblivious.

Unfortunately mikey, Cole is completely neutered. He has zero ability to make the changes necessary. Hofstra has placed ONE person above the ENTIRE program. And when that happens, failure is inevitable - it sets in like a tick and won't stop until the change is finally made.

Case in point: Syracuse basketball.

[Hofstra]

Another 1 goal loss. I can write this script.

[HUSID80]

It is AMAZING how we manage to lose so many close games...and once again v. Michigan you JUST KNEW after we tied it up we would give up the winning goal late...

[mikey75]

As mentioned in prior posts ST is Captain One Goal loss. To Cole and ST a one goal L is a W.