Game 20 at COC 1/18@ 4:00 PM

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Game 20 at COC 1/18@ 4:00 PM

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Newsday has us as a 4 point underdog here no surprise there. They average around 4,000 a game in attendance so we know playing there is a challenge. Last year we beat them both games and they no longer have Brantley a big loss of course we don't have Justin. We're a better offensive team scoring 76.9 pts. a game to their 70.9 they give up 67.6 to our 70.8. That translates loosely to us winning by 3 without intangibles factored in. I think we match up well against them and really after Riller I'm not all that concerned with their starting players. We need to contain him and stop him from having a huge game. Their center Miller played 21 minutes in two games against us last year and didn't score however this is a different year and he's contributing now. This has the makings of a very good game and someone winning by a few points IMO. Hopefully we can put two halves together and bring at least our B+ game. We have the offense to beat them and as prior posts have said maybe we need to drive and pickup fouls rather then trying to lite it up beyond the ARC.
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Re: Game 20 at COC 1/18@ 4:00 PM

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If HU plays like they did against Wilmington they are in for a long afternoon...must bring some energy to the court
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ESPN has this game as 3.5 pts in favor of Charleston. Sagarin about the same which is essentially due to the home court advantage which is just about the spread.
Charleston has been struggling a bit lately, blowing a big lead vs Northeastern Thursday.
Hoping for a good close game with our guards pulling it out at the end.
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garyg wrote:If HU plays like they did against Wilmington they are in for a long afternoon...must bring some energy to the court
Yes Gary we only seem to play 20 minutes out of 40 but we played better in the second half against UNCW. They played the game with a lot of emotion after their coach got fired and they had a decent crowd. If they shot just decent from beyond the ARC we would have lost that game. I believe we have a better team then the COC and our guard play should be the difference. Coburn starts to turn his season around now and Kante improving every game and can be a handful like a lot of us expected.
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Re: Game 20 at COC 1/18@ 4:00 PM

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I wonder if we are going to see a little friendly back and forth banter on social media with Brantley and JWF since they are teammates now.
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HofstraMathew wrote:I wonder if we are going to see a little friendly back and forth banter on social media with Brantley and JWF since they are teammates now.
Yes that's probable a nice backdrop but at the end of the day it would be great to get another win on the road. This team seems to find a way. We'll see!!
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Riller had a triple double on Thursday and is obviously a scary talent. Cannot let him wreck the game. One thing William and Mary has done a brilliant job of is shutting down top players in the league so far (Roland, Riller and our top guys). If we want to get to their level we’re gonna have to find a way to keep a superstar player at least under control. I know he’s gonna get his 20 points but if we let him go for 30+ we’ll be in trouble. If we can somehow pull this out we’d be 6-1 with the next 3 being games we’ll be pretty solid favorites in and a real chance at being 9-1 heading into Williamsburg.
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Hof_Judge99 wrote:Riller had a triple double on Thursday and is obviously a scary talent. Cannot let him wreck the game. One thing William and Mary has done a brilliant job of is shutting down top players in the league so far (Roland, Riller and our top guys). If we want to get to their level we’re gonna have to find a way to keep a superstar player at least under control. I know he’s gonna get his 20 points but if we let him go for 30+ we’ll be in trouble. If we can somehow pull this out we’d be 6-1 with the next 3 being games we’ll be pretty solid favorites in and a real chance at being 9-1 heading into Williamsburg.
I'm buying in completely stop Riller from taking over the game and we should be in a good place. That's the game plan.
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https://gohofstra.com/news/2020/1/17/me ... eston.aspx is Hofstra's preview titled "MBB: Hofstra Concludes Southern Swing At Charleston."

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/ ... game20.pdf is Hofstra's Game Notes.

http://defiantlydutch.blogspot.com/2020 ... eston.html is Jerry Beach's "I'll Be Quirky: Charleston."

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=283463 will have statistics.

If you pay for Flo, be prepared to hear "it's good" a lot. Charleston's play-by-play announcer is repetitive.

With 2,211 points, Riller is eighth in CAA history, and 11 points behind Delaware's Devon Saddler. Passing Saddler would give Riller the most points by a CAA player not on Hofstra since the northern schools joined in 2001-2002. We have the top three in that time with Jenkins' 2,513, JWF's 2,387, and Agudio's 2,276. At his current average, Riller is on pace to pass Jenkins for second in CAA history in his third CAA Tournament or other tournament game, which he may or may not get to play in. Hypothetically, Riller could make a shot at the buzzer to beat us in the CAA Final and pass Jenkins' points. ESPN's Mock Draft has Riller 44th and the only CAA player being drafted. The last CAA player drafted 44th or earlier was when Jenkins was drafted 44th in 2011. Since David Robinson was drafted first in 1987, the earliest CAA draft pick was VCU's Larry Sanders, who was taken 15th in 2010 after three seasons in college.

https://static.caasports.com/custompage ... m#team.ind has Charleston's statistics. Brevin Galloway averages 11.4 points, 1.9 steals (second to Buie in the CAA), 2.4 threes made (4th in the CAA), and shoots well. Jaylen McManus is third on the team with 8.9 points and fourth on the team with 4.9 rebounds, but he shoots poorly and doesn't get many assists, steals, or blocks. Sam Miller averages 8.1 points, 5.9 rebounds (leads them), and 1.1 blocks (tied for 4th in the CAA). He attempts more twos than threes and shoots well. His rebounds and percent of attempts that are threes make him like Coburn, but Kante could have to guard Miller because Charleston doesn't start anybody who rarely or never shoots threes. Zep Jasper averages 7.6 points and shoots well, but doesn't get many rebounds or assists. It's hard for a starter to average only 1.6 rebounds, but that's what he does. They have six bench players averaging at least 5.3 minutes per team game, and they don't have any players who play rarely like some of our players. Zach Rabinowitz played 1 minute. Charleston says he was a walk-on last season, when he was on the roster but did not play. Their most used bench player is Osinachi Smart, who lost his starting spot to Miller. Smart (no threes attempted) and Trevon Reddish (1 of 25 attempts is a three) are their only players who rarely or never attempt threes. He leads the bench with 3.9 points and is third on the team with 5.2 points. Last season he scored 3 points in 68 minutes, but starting forwards Brantley and Nick Harris graduated to give Smart more time. Jaylen Richard (pronounced ree-shard, not rich-ard) averages 3.8 and is their seventh and final player averaging over 2 points. Their five starters (including Miller who is a starter now and is fifth in minutes over Smart who has one more start) have played 69.8 percent of their minutes. They have fewer field goal attempts, rebounds, assists, and blocks than their opponents.

https://cofcsports.com/news/2020/1/17/m ... ugars.aspx is Charleston's preview titled "Preseason Favorite Hofstra Next Challenge For Cougars."

https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/ ... _Notes.pdf is Charleston's Game Notes.
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Not sure we can say they’ve been ‘struggling’ because another top team beat them... maybe not owning the league, but they are still top group IMO. Riller is nasty, but I don’t think he beats teams by himself - they are more of a collective, can’t soley focus on him - think it’s more contain within reason, and bring enough heat elsewhere to ensure his teammates don’t exploit. Make em work for everything, let’s move that ball and take good open looks. Kante will be tested here simply because they’re a physical minded team. But not facing a Brantley so I think there’s equal opp for him to show up big. Cowboy up!

Expecting a battle.
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ON a side note but still important for HU - Drexel just finished trouncing W&M by 25+ pts. :o :D
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Both teams started their usual starters.

It was 84-57. Drexel had three stars. Nathan Knight scored 28, and his teammates scored 29. Van Vliet scored only 5. Drexel is 5-2 in the CAA and goes to Northeastern and us next. Jacob Cushing, a senior who entered with 32 points this season, made a three to win 79-78 hosting Elon. JMU attempted 70 shots but made only 22 in a 69-61 loss at Drexel. Northeastern is at UNCW at 7:00 P.M.

Edit: Coburn scored 13 in the first 3:37 with four threes. The third three was on a four-point play, and the fourth three hit the front rim and kept going. Buie has 2, and we lead 15-9. Sam Miller has 7, Brevin Galloway has 2 from when Pemberton fouled him in the act of shooting a three, and neither Pemberton nor Riller has shot.
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TC on fire 4-4 from 3 :D
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The announcers didn't mention that Burgess came in, and the statistics said Cramer had a steal before correcting it from Number 23 to Number 32. We lead 23-19. Riller made a three after the first timeout and another three and a two to have 8 points. Pemberton has 1 shot and no points.

Edit: Charleston took their first lead at 24-23, but it didn't last. We got bench points and Schutte made a two and Silverio made a three. We had two bench players score before Pemberton. We're shooting great, but we only lead 30-26 because Charleston has 6 offensive rebounds, which is half of their misses. Riller committed his second foul with 8:13 left and was subbed out.
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Nice job by CB playing D on Riller. Riller picked up an offensive for his second foul and is now on the bench.
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We took our largest lead at 41-32, but Galloway made a three, and Charleston has the ball after an offensive foul by Burgess. Pemberton hasn't scored. Jaylen McManus, who averages 8.9 points and 4.9 rebounds, has 2 fouls in 7 minutes without a shot or rebound.

Edit: We didn't score in the last 3:33. After Kante missed a longer two than he normally shoots with time on the shot clock to pass, Riller had a chance to tie or give Charleston the lead at halftime. He missed and did not draw the foul he wanted. We lead 41-39.

Eight CAA teams have played first halves today made shot free throws 22-23 (.957), with at least two made every time there were at least two attempts because Galloway made two of three. Coburn had a four-point play 2:33 in, and we haven't attempted a free throw since. The teams have combined to make 14 of 30 twos and 15 of 30 threes. We shot threes (8/13 = .615) better than twos (8/16 = .500) for a field goal percentage of 16/29 = .552. Coburn has 16 points, but only 2 rebounds. Coburn and Kante have a block, and two blocks at halftime is above our average of 1.9. Ray has 7, with 5 points in 27 seconds with 7:15 and 6:48 left. Buie has 6 points and 6 of our 8 assists. Silverio has 6 points on 2-3 shooting which were all threes, and he stole the ball from Riller. Kante has 4 points on 2-4 shooting and leads us with 5 rebounds. He has 1 steal. We have only 2 steals with none by our starting guards. Pemberton has no points, 3 rebounds, and no assists. Schutte scored 2 by making his only shot. Burgess had 1 assist, 1 foul, and 1 turnover in 7 minutes without shooting. Since Trueheart didn't play, I'm guessing he's unavailable. We got outrebounded 18-14 and Coburn had our only offensive rebound, but lost the ball 4 seconds later. Buie got 41 seconds off, and Pemberton got 3:49 off. Riller has 13 points to lead his team and be second to Coburn, 7 rebounds to lead all players, and 4 assists to lead his team and be second to Buie. You can't rule out consecutive triple-doubles, especially if it goes overtime. Sam Miller scored 7, Brevin Galloway and Zep Jasper scored 5, and they got 9 bench points. The teams had 5 turnovers each, and we had the only 5 fast break points.
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Up by 2 at the half. HU shooting well and needs to keep it up in the second half. EP has yet to score - we need him to get involved.
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Were up 2 at the half...pretty sloppy last couple of minutes after we went out to a nine point lead.

Keep it going guys, play tough and get this win.
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whats with EP today - just threw up a airball on a wide open shot?

We stopped moving the ball......all one on one.
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We trail 53-49, and Charleston has the ball after an air ball by Pemberton. We have 8 points in 9:06 in the half. Pemberton hasn't scored, and he has as many misses in the second half (3) as in the first half. We're shooting better, but we have fewer attempts and 9 fewer rebounds.

Edit: After trailing a while, we lead 59-56. Riller has only 2 of Charleston's 17 second half points. Buie and Coburn have 16 each. Kante had a dunk to give us the lead back, and then Pemberton scored his first 2. Kante (8 points and 9 rebounds) and Buie (8 assists) could have double-doubles.

Edit: Charleston has the ball tied at 62 with 3:51 left. Buie made a three and leads all scorers with 19. After him and Coburn's 16, Ray is our third leading scorer with 9. Kante has 8, and Silverio has 6 without a shot in the second half. Riller and Sam Miller are tied for Charleston's lead with 15. Riller has 10 rebounds to lead all players and 5 assists.
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